Nonsense. You can choose cornflakes or Cocoa Puffs or oatmeal or Froot Loops or whatever else. Nobody is stopping you. ![]()
Well those who believe in determinism suggest that the “choice” has been made by you already.
Except the seer guy seems to think that you are superior for not needing others to fulfill your desire, along with a few other things on his list.
You asked me elsewhere how I dismissed this dude. I’ll answer here: so what that he thinks you are superior for not needing others to fulfill your desire? I think he’s inferior for not needing others; what now?
I’m literally teaching this unit to my third graders this week. Yesterday we talked about what opinions were, and I asked them to tell me some of their opinions, and then I told them the terrible secret: “Nobody cares about your opinions,” I said, and watched their faces open in shock.
“Nobody, that is, unless you support those opinions with reasons. And your reasons need to include facts, and they need to include logic.”
This blogger writes outrageous opinions, and sure, he declares them definitively. But there are no facts to support his claims of superiority, nor even a metric by which he makes that declaration. It’s like a bowl of Rice Crispies and guano: all puffery and batshit.
But since other people are just a figment of your imagination, it’s all good.
Bravo Good Sir. I’m gonna use that one. Where do I send the royalty check for how much? ![]()
Seriously, your overall post is spot on. Anyone can state an opinion. At minimum they’ve got as many brain cells behind them does a dog barking. It’s only facts and logic that elevates it from dog-noise to something worthy of a critter with a brain. It’s certainly only facts and logic that elevates it to something a critter with a brain should listen to.
Ok that last bit was pretty good. But yeah, I get what you are saying. He asserts things as though they are self evident and true without actually supporting them with anything at all. I guess I’m just worried about him being right about anything at all.
But I think the notion behind not needing anyone has some roots in individualism. That it’s better to not need anyone else for something when you can do it on your own. That sort of independence is a celebrated trait, so somehow I think that lends a bit of truth to the argument. Kind of like how " i dont need anyone else to have fun". Like not needing or depending on outside factors to aid yourself. Seeking help or things outside of you can be seen as weakness.
So I guess you saying he is inferior for not needing others doesn’t hold the same kind of logical strength as his claim of not needing anyone else. I’m not trying to defend him, but I don’t want simple denial either.
As much as I want him to be wrong, I need something strong in my mind for it
A stopped clock is right twice a day. That doesn’t mean you should get your time from it.
If he said “For me, not needing anyone else works” no one could argue. His problem is applying his peculiar disposition to the entire world.
If you read discussions on this subject here, let alone in places where people are even more open, you’ll find that some people like one partner forever, some are not satisfied without multiple partners, some want none at all.
Some are monogamous, some find it stifling. Some have high libidos, some have low. Our diversity is incredible.
But that doesn’t mean people liking X should say X is right for everyone. St. Paul did that, and screwed up the West for a very long time.
If you love butterscotch ice cream exclusively, fine, just don’t tell me I’m stupid for not loving it as much as you. Which is what this guy is doing.
I understand that, I really do. But the whole “not needing anyone” does seem to have some logic behind it. Being able to be independent is usually seen as a good thing. Although if we are speaking a broad sense, technically anyone can masturbate so that sort of throws a wrench in what he says. But he’s claims to be a virgin and is proud of the fact, seems to regard having sex with someone else as a weakness of some kind.
A)I’m not going to go read anything that guy has to say.
But B) From what you have said about what he has to say, it sounds an awful lot like he is a lonely loser rife with sour grapes syndrome.
This reminds me of the old Simon and Garfunkel song “I am a Rock.” Yeah, not needing someone has the benefit of not being hurt if things go wrong, but it also has the problem of no upside, none of the amazing emotions and joy that love brings you.
The same principle can go with trying anything new.
Or it can be seen as a strength. Or a bit of both.
To say that something “has its roots in individualism” can be another way of saying that it denies or discounts an important aspect of the human person, which is that it realises and expresses itself in relationships with other human persons. We are relational beings; to be human is to have relations with other humans. The human who is totally isolated is diminished by that isolation.
Not needing others can be good, in certain respects, up to a point. But even that qualified good comes at a price, and the price has to be acknowledged. Probably the highest good is finding the optimal balance between independence and interdependence, and celebrating independence as a good in isolation, without also celebrating interdependnece as a good, is going to distort things.
I don’t know. I guess there is a pride to be had in not needing anyone. But it’s a lonely bit, and to be honest it kind of smacks of weakness a little. It’s being afraid to ask for help or to lean on others sometimes. I would venture to say that being obsessed with independence is a sign of emotional deprivation.
You might have a point. There is no downside to not needing others, but not really a benefit. We see what happens to people in isolation. I wouldn’t say to need others, but to not be afraid to ask for help when you need to. Humans only got this far by helpin each other. No man is an island.
In the case of sex, it’s more than just pleasure when it’s with someone else. It’s a different experience.
Right–a different experience, and an experience that this dude is 100% unqualified to opine about.
You’ve heard of tough mudders? They’re these really intense obstacle courses that get you filthy and are incredibly difficult to complete. I’m here to tell you that they’re stupid: far too easy, and at the end of one you haven’t had fun, you’re just dirty and probably bruised up. People that do them are losers.
Knowing that I’ve never been on a tough mudder, what respect do you have for this opinion?
Now, it’s not a hard and fast rule that you have to have experienced something in order to have an opinion about it. Instead of having the experience directly, you can have a huge amount of reliable information about the experience, and you can share that information in a way that’s logically connected to your opinion.
But that’s also not what’s going on here. This guy doesn’t pepper his posts with statistics and citations. He doesn’t even seem to be aware that people are getting something from sexual relationships with other people that he’s not getting from psychic pud-tugging. He thinks, “I’m doing exactly the same thing as they are, ONLY BETTER BECAUSE I CAN DO IT ALL BY MYSELF!”
That’s nifty if you’re talking about tying your shoes, and maybe that’s where he got the idea from. But having a sexual relationship is different from tying your shoes, and if it isn’t either you’re doing it wrong or you’re way kinkier than me.
Didn’t anybody notice this?
2064! In the future we’ll all be giving ourselves orgasms with our minds! You’re burying the lede!
In the year 2064
His reasoning’s so poor
Let’s show him the door
He knows not of love
https://forbiddentruthblog.com/2015/08/03/the-pleasures-benefits-of-lifelong-virginity/
https://forbiddentruthblog.com/tag/human-relationships/
https://forbiddentruthblog.com/2017/07/26/poetic-and-beautiful-reflections-of-mindfulness-or-senseless-insane-displays-of-mindlessness/
Yeah, you’re right. Judging from all these things, he really is screwed.
Well he does say that love is a lie in that love is a selfish emotion, well maybe something like it.