That is, like your opinion dude. 
This is Trump, the context shows that it is par for the course when one deals with Trump.
I have to agree with the historians, the conservatives and republicans that did see it as racist, and my wife.
You also miss that it was pointed that Republicans that had better brains than a goldfish did agree that it was racist, so my point also stands, you are willfully enjoying catching the ignorant fleas from dumb old conservative hounds.
Thanks to wolfpup and others for eloquently putting dotards like Starving in their place. (I wonder if they even have passports. I traveled through Europe on business with an American who refused to go to restaurants or hotels that didn’t take American Express. When I asked him why he had no interest in non-American culture he said all he wanted was to go to sleep to the sound of “Star Spangled Banner” when a TV station signed off!.)
Starving brags that he did not vote for Hillary, so even if he’s truthful about not voting for Trump he effectively gave him half a vote.
And lets dispose of the idea that Starving is aware of Trump’s “many shortcomings.” Searching just now I see Starving has made more posts about Trump than Bricker has made praising the democratic virtues of voter suppression. He’s mentioned “Trump” in 165 different threads. (All searches for Posts ran into the 500 result limit.) Here are just a few of the fawning posts to turn up. (There were far too many to sift through, particularly since the ignorances were sickening. But Starving has invested many hours on this Board extolling Trump’s greatness.)
I have highlighted some of the sentences in these Starving posts. The first one was in early 2004 shortly after Starving joined the Board.
MBA, hunh? Can we see the original certificate please? 
My narcissism caused me to click on “Does Trump even want to be President?” since I started that thread in June 2016.
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I submit that Trump does want to be president, and I believe his overriding motive is based on a determination to do economic battle with other countries and to straighten out the U.S. economy in ways he believes it needs to be straightened out. I came upon the following video about an hour ago and in clips over the last 40 years or so Trump has been remarkably consistent about how other countries are screwing the U.S, what bad economic policies the U.S. has been engaging in, and about how he didn’t really want to be president but would consider it if things got bad enough. I think his entire modus operandi is cynically geared to manipulate people into voting for him for a variety of other reasons which he knows will resonate with them, but what he really wants to do is get into office and kick butt economically. It’s an interesting video and well worth the time.
[/QUOTE]In fairness to Starving here’s a post expressing worry about a possible Trump Presidency:
In the next post, we learn that Trump is indeed playing 7-dimensional chess. His shitholes and pussy-grabbing is all part of an Einsteinian plot to Make America Great Again.
I’ve highlighted a quote about bankers. Does Starving know that American banks became so disgusted with the Donald’s frauds that he had to turn to Russia for financing?
I am not taking my opinions from others. I think for myself.
If someone happens to agree, well… then they agree.
Just opinions, man. That’s all.
I’ll tell my mother. She went into the emergency ward of the public hospital with chest pains late last year, she was admitted on the spot, and a heart bypass was done the next day, and she was home a week later and being visited regularly by the district nurse, with daily home help for the housework. It cost her nothing but the taxes she’d paid all her working life, because in New Zealand we consider it the responsibility of society to care for its aged and unwell, and we elect governments that make healthcare a priority. What you don’t seem to grasp is that this isn’t some boast about intangibles like whose country is greater, but that if I and many others from around the world emigrated to the US, our standard of living, not to mention quality of life, would take a substantial and quantifiable hit.
I think I’ll stick with facts.
ETA: response to anomalous1
Well, yeah, but your crime rate is a lot lower. And I bet your wage gap is smaller too. How you like that, socialist boy?!
It is clear that your sarcasm radar is broken, read again and you will see that I concluded it was racist before I asked others.
Just that some opinions are more educated and others like yours ignorant, or coming from an anomalous brain, so please proceed governor…
Or president, if he is reading.
Now, going back to the shithole comment…
Apparently, some folks are imagining a plane landing in the worst areas of Port-au-Prince, letting down the ladder, and yelling “C’mon, folks! Free ride to the States, no waiting!” Or the Spanish equivalent, anyway…
Don’t work like that, sunshine.
Immigrants, of any type, are searchingly vetted - education, background, language skills, all that.
Now, it just may be me, but I’m more impressed by the guy from one of those “shithole countries” who can meet the standards imposed, that the privileged guy from Norway. That first one has shown a whole lot more guts and initiative, overcoming a really crappy background, than the second. Sounds to me like the former would make an excellent citizen.
Or is the real problem, anomalous1, the fact that these people are far more worthy to be Americans than you are? After all, what had you done to qualify for citizenship?
Like, no shit. Likewise, this Canuck embraces having my not-so-spectacular income getting taxed to help those much less fortunate than myself. This isn’t about some sanctimonious, self-serving, selflessness, this is about doing a very basic, human thing, and why such a significant segment on the right can’t get their fucking head around this basic concept is one of the inexcusably tragic failings with that side of the aisle.
Yes, because we all know that the bureaucracy of the private insurance companies have only your best interests at heart.
Why does every reputable study comparing health care across countries show that the U.S. has much greater overhead and bureaucracy? In most other advanced countries, doctor’s offices have to deal with one bureaucracy in billing whereas in the U.S. they have to deal with the bureaucracies of all the private insurance companies (in addition to Medicare/Medicaid). I remember a doctor in Canada explaining to me how his practice of several doctors had one admin person who spent part of her time on billing issues whereas corresponding practices that size in the U.S. have several admin people who work full time on billing issues.
Trump, if he had two brain cells to rub together, would know that comments like this in a meeting which included the opposition was not going to stay secret. I can think of private jokes made by people 40 years ago which got out and caused a furor. If Trump had any self control, he wouldn’t have said it in that meeting. Its impact was magnified by the similar things he has said in the past.
The person whose campaign was non-step denigration of his opponents can hardly complain about his own words being used against him.
Remember, the DNC emails were private also.
Hmm. Russia is more of a kleptocracy now - the accumulation of wealth and power just like in the Communist days without the party or ideology. Putin is more concerned with building the empire.
But as for China, remember that the party is still the party, and any capitalist who does something the party doesn’t want to see is going to wind up in jail or worse.
Remember when the stock market there was falling and the party stepped in to forbid sales of certain stocks? They let capitalism happen only to the extent it helps the party. Even the companies with huge debts who are still buying like crazy say they are buying stuff the party wants them to buy.
I guess you don’t know the history of Communism very well. When I was a conservative I read Whittaker Chambers’ autobiography. He’s the guy - former Communist - who exposed Alger Hiss. Useful idiot is the non-communist who furthers communist goals through idealism or whatever. And I was referring to Trump more than to you, since Trump is furthering the goals of the Chinese quite well through his racism and incompetence.
The journalists during the '30s who went to the Soviet Union and were shown pretty villages with happy peasants and who came back and wrote about what a great job Stalin was doing were useful idiots, for example.
“Shithole” is very clearly a pejorative; indeed it’s basically the strongest pejorative that one could use for describing a country. Of course it’s going to offend many people – whether we call it racist, profoundly ignorant or just retarded, is a wash.
I live in a world where Trump is president and yet still some things can shock me, and the defense of the shithole comment fits into that bracket: “Oh, what he meant by shithole was their GDP per capita is below the average for OECD countries…”
And yeah, the ignorance of it. I appreciate some americans who haven’t travelled may imagine all of africa, all 11 million sq miles of it, as just a big desert, with dirt poor people walking around barefoot. But it’s fucking embarrassing for a president to think like that.
Calling a country - when talking about the state of the country itself (poverty, crime, destruction due to natural disaster, etc) is not, in and of itself, racist.
When in the context of Imigration - when you are in fact talking about the people from those countries, especially as comparing them to people of norway - is racist.
Now crawl back to the bridge you came from.
No, they are not, at least up to a decent standard. ‘Seems’ Doesn’t make it so.
No, they are not more worthy than I. If I were in that situation, I would hardly need to earn citizenship. Since I’m not, your point is invalid.
Enjoy your liberal fantasy land, what you imagine doesn’t make it actionable, It’s time for all of you to grow up and enter the real world.
I see nothing but pointless hypothetical drivel from a wide bunch of diluted and brainwashed minds who reach for strawmen every chance they get, to avoid the inevitable conclusion that all they have left is to play the race card, otherwise they wouldn’t have anything else to whine about. You libs (not all, i’m fair) are so pathetic, its laughable, but the kind of laughing that is inappropriate since it would be laughing at someone with diminished mental capacity.
Gee, the last time I went to the DMV to renew my driver’s license, here in Socialist California, it was a lot more efficient than getting a cellphone.
I went to the Social Security office last month. Wait - with a reservation - of under 5 minutes. We were doing something reasonably complicated, and the person we spoke to was very knowledgeable as well as helpful and friendly. I’d say it was in the top 10% of “capitalist” interactions I’ve had. Medicare has been as easy or easier to deal with than my private insurance, gotten through work.
Maybe you are one of those “keep the government’s hands off my Medicare” people.
Someone seems to be missing the point. The state of a country is defined by its inhabitants. If they can’t take care of their own, why would they do better elsewhere. Its not that much of a stretch of the imagination… I thought liberals, with their incessant stretching of the truth and fact and immeasurable capacity for fantasy, could grasp such a little, simple concept. I suppose not, it would be asking too much.
Don’t get me started on the statutory 6 months paid maternity leave*. I guess we’re just not as GREAT as the go-getting freedom-loving denizens of countries which don’t let those lazy bitches loll about at home suckling on the taxpayers’ teat like the lazy babies suckling on their actual teat when they could be out sweeping chimneys or selling matches in the street, the fat toothless little socialist parasites, thinking milk comes for free. Y’know, GREAT countries like Liberia, Sierra Leone, Papua New Guinea and, ooh, one other, it’s on the tip of my tongue.
*Which is distinctly average by OECD standards.
The real world did notice that you claimed to think for yourself… on a thread where you told everyone that you only need to follow or repost what SA is posting.
So, you need to do it first indeed…
We agree on this.
Liberals have this trick they use. It’s called evidence-based reasoning.
Immigration is not a new concept. It’s been one of the center pillars of American society since before we were even a country. America has always had immigrants entering the country and we’ve always turned them into Americans, regardless of what country they came from.
And historically, people who were coming to America tended to come from poorer countries. People in poor countries are the ones most likely to be looking for a chance to improve their lives.