elucidator:
The perfect opportunity pissed away. Shut down plans for the Wall with a noble and endearing gesture. Talked himself into the shit hole, and the perfect chance to skate out of it looking like a hero, and he fucks it up.
Amazing.
Good point. This would have been the perfect time for Trump to give up on his stupid wall – use the money to pay for hurricane relief instead – but he missed it.
(Yes, he’s donating some of his own money, but that’s not billions.)
After the hurricane and rain, now he’ll say the wall needs a roof too.
elucidator:
The perfect opportunity pissed away. Shut down plans for the Wall with a noble and endearing gesture. Talked himself into the shit hole, and the perfect chance to skate out of it looking like a hero, and he fucks it up.
Amazing.
You spelled “Typical” wrong.
No, he’s not. Every magnanimous act by Trump requires an “allegedly” until confirmed by a trustworthy third-party source.
You know, every time you guys mock Trump over this thing the wall gets ten feet higher. Another month and it’s going to be taller than the Burj Khalifa.
JKellyMap:
Good point. This would have been the perfect time for Trump to give up on his stupid wall – use the money to pay for hurricane relief instead – but he missed it.
(Yes, he’s donating some of his own money, but that’s not billions.)
CNN
Asked Thursday whether the donation would come from Trump’s own fortune or from the coffers of the Trump Organization, Sanders indicated she wasn’t sure legally where the donation would originate , but that it would be the President’s own money.
WTF? You write a check against your personal bank account. Where does legality come in?
jsc1953
September 2, 2017, 2:36pm
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Trump money, Trump Foundation money, it’s all the same, right?
Yeah, big difference. If it comes from the Trump “Foundation”, it means that Trump is spending somebody else’s money and taking all the credit, which is what he’s best at.
jsc1953
September 2, 2017, 2:38pm
1769
I saw a meme this week of presidential disaster responses: Clinton giving a hug, Bush giving a hug, Obama giving a hug…Trump haranguing a gathering from a safe distance.
We’ll see how close he gets to actual flood victims today.
jsc1953:
I saw a meme this week of presidential disaster responses: Clinton giving a hug, Bush giving a hug, Obama giving a hug…Trump haranguing a gathering from a safe distance.
We’ll see how close he gets to actual flood victims today.
They’ll find a woman with a grabbable pussy.
jsc1953:
I saw a meme this week of presidential disaster responses: Clinton giving a hug, Bush giving a hug, Obama giving a hug…Trump haranguing a gathering from a safe distance.
We’ll see how close he gets to actual flood victims today.
Wasn’t it Trump photographed handing out the critical post-disaster Play-Dough last year?
SteveG1
September 2, 2017, 3:21pm
1772
jsc1953:
Trump money, Trump Foundation money, it’s all the same, right?
Yeah, big difference. If it comes from the Trump “Foundation”, it means that Trump is spending somebody else’s money and taking all the credit, which is what he’s best at.
For decades, Donald Trump has publicly pledged money to various charities and then never followed through with actual donations . David Farenthold of the Washington Post won the Pulitzer Prize this year for his investigative digging into Donald Trump’s decades of non-existent or exaggerated charitable donations . So when Sarah Huckabee Sanders announced this week that Trump would be donating $1 million to the victims of Hurricane Harvey, many people reacted with skepticism and said, “show us the receipt .” Especially because of the vague details when the pledge was announced:
Sanders said the president has not decided when or where he will send the donation… like when he would release his tax data???
At Friday’s press conference, she was again pressed on where Trump’s $1 million pledge would be coming from and she seemed to be easing off the idea, providing wiggle room, on whether the money would be coming from Donald Trump himself. In fact, Huckabee appeared to stammer when asked and quickly tried to deflect the question
Who knew donating money could be so complicated! Couldn’t they donate the proceeds from the hats they’ve been promoting and selling throughout the hurricane coverage?
This donation comes with questions attached.** In the past, he has failed to follow through on promised donations** from his “nonprofit” foundation.
Trump Doesn’t Know How to Read Breitbart Without Someone Printing It Out for Him
That’s one good thing with Bannon gone. He can’t influence Trump beyond first grade reading level.
OMG. I’m torn between relief that Trump is no longer getting his Breitbart-and-Daily-Caller fix, and being appalled at his lack of … life skills. (Yes, he’s old as presidents go, but not THAT old; someone who is seventy-one now would have been in his late forties / early fifties when the Internet stopped being an obscure thing for geeks and became ubiquitous.)
Monty
September 3, 2017, 9:42am
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SteveG1:
For decades, Donald Trump has publicly pledged money to various charities and then never followed through with actual donations . David Farenthold of the Washington Post won the Pulitzer Prize this year for his investigative digging into Donald Trump’s decades of non-existent or exaggerated charitable donations . So when Sarah Huckabee Sanders announced this week that Trump would be donating $1 million to the victims of Hurricane Harvey, many people reacted with skepticism and said, “show us the receipt .” Especially because of the vague details when the pledge was announced:
Sanders said the president has not decided when or where he will send the donation… like when he would release his tax data???
At Friday’s press conference, she was again pressed on where Trump’s $1 million pledge would be coming from and she seemed to be easing off the idea, providing wiggle room, on whether the money would be coming from Donald Trump himself. In fact, Huckabee appeared to stammer when asked and quickly tried to deflect the question
Who knew donating money could be so complicated! Couldn’t they donate the proceeds from the hats they’ve been promoting and selling throughout the hurricane coverage?
This donation comes with questions attached.** In the past, he has failed to follow through on promised donations** from his “nonprofit” foundation.
Yep, no surprises here. I do have a question for the legal beagles among us. If Trump is treating that charity like his own bank account, then doesn’t that trigger some kind of tax consequence?
Oh, if only. But sometimes dreams do come true, you know.
SteveG1
September 3, 2017, 10:19pm
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jsc1953:
I saw a meme this week of presidential disaster responses: Clinton giving a hug, Bush giving a hug, Obama giving a hug…Trump haranguing a gathering from a safe distance.
We’ll see how close he gets to actual flood victims today.
For whatever faults they may have had, THEY gave a damn. This asswipe doesn’t.
SteveG1
September 3, 2017, 10:40pm
1778
It’s illegal.
Example:
New York’s Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is looking into the Eric Trump Foundation for potential misuse of funds after a Forbes article detailed some pretty jarring accusations.
The outlet published an article Tuesday saying money raised at a charity event in September was grossly mishandled.
Forbes says the Eric Trump Foundation received a $100,000 donation from the Donald J. Trump Foundation. The magazine says that money was then used to pay a Trump property for charity expenses.
That looks like self-dealing, which is illegal.
One that may be one of daddy’s favorites right now, considering that he is already “campaigning and holding rallies”…
Q: Can the presidential candidates keep their campaign money? A: No. They can donate any contributions they haven’t spent to charities or political parties, and they can pay leftover campaign bills. The big rule is: no personal use. FULL ANSWER...
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No Personal Use of Campaign Money …
A campaign committee can give up to $2,000 per election to each candidate. If the committee is converted into a political action committee, the limit jumps to $5,000 – but to be established as a PAC, the committee would have to be in existence for six months, receive contributions from 50 donors, and make contributions to five recipients.
What candidates can’t do with leftover money is use it for personal expenses. Retiring federal lawmakers used to be able to pocket extra cash and use it for cars, vacations, clothes, pet grooming, whatever – but that changed in 1989 with the passage of the Ethics Reform Act.
How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business …
The real star of the day is Eric Trump, the president’s second son and now the co-head of the Trump Organization, who has hosted this event for ten years on behalf of the St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital in Memphis. He’s done a ton of good: To date, he’s directed more than $11 million there, the vast majority of it via this annual golf event. He has also helped raise another $5 million through events with other organizations.
The best part about all this, according to Eric Trump, is the charity’s efficiency: Because he can get his family’s golf course for free and have most of the other costs donated, virtually all the money contributed will go toward helping kids with cancer. “We get to use our assets 100% free of charge,” Trump tells Forbes.
…That’s not the case. In reviewing filings from the Eric Trump Foundation and other charities, it’s clear that the course wasn’t free–that the Trump Organization received payments for its use, part of more than $1.2 million that has no documented recipients past the Trump Organization. Golf charity experts say the listed expenses defy any reasonable cost justification for a one-day golf tournament.
Additionally, the Donald J. Trump Foundation, which has come under previous scrutiny for self-dealing and advancing the interests of its namesake rather than those of charity, apparently used the Eric Trump Foundation to funnel $100,000 in donations into revenue for the Trump Organization.
And while donors to the Eric Trump Foundation were told their money was going to help sick kids, more than $500,000 was re-donated to other charities, many of which were connected to Trump family members or interests, including at least four groups that subsequently paid to hold golf tournaments at Trump courses.
All of this seems to defy federal tax rules and state laws that ban self-dealing and misleading donors. It also raises larger questions about the Trump family dynamics and whether Eric and his brother, Don Jr., can be truly independent of their father.
Especially since the person who specifically commanded that the for-profit Trump Organization start billing hundreds of thousands of dollars to the nonprofit Eric Trump Foundation, according to two people directly involved, was none other than the current president of the United States, Donald Trump.
Former U.S. Representative Corrine Brown was found guilty Thursday of pocketing hundreds of thousands of dollars that she raised for a fake charity alongside her former chief of staff, Elias “Ronnie” Simmons. Brown was a member of the House of Representatives for more than two decades, and one of the first African-Americans from Florida to be elected to Congress. She ran for reelection in 2016, but was defeated shortly after news surfaced that she had been indicted on seven counts of wire fraud, five counts of mail fraud, three counts of falsifying tax returns, and one count of conspiracy.
From 2012 to 2016, Brown and Simmons were aligned with the One Door for Education Foundation, a Virginia-based organization claiming to provide education expenses like college scholarships and school computers to underprivileged students. Brown was accused of using her status as a congresswoman to solicit more than $800,000 for the fraudulent charity. Federal prosecutors said Brown and Simmons used the donations to finance vacations and car repairs. The Justice Department also accused them of diverting more than $300,000 in funds “for events either hosted by Brown or held in her honor,” including a high-profile golf tournament, box seats for an NFL game, and tickets to a Beyoncé concert. According to Brown’s indictment, only $1,200 of the charity’s funds were used for scholarships over five years.
Trump bought a 6-foot-tall portrait of himself with charity money. We may have found it. … In 2007, Donald Trump spent $20,000 that belonged to his charity — the Donald J. Trump Foundation — to buy a six-foot-tall portrait of himself during a fundraiser auction at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Florida.
That purchase was reported Sunday by The Washington Post. Since then, the portrait has been the center of a mystery: What did Trump do with the painting after he bought it?
If Trump did not give the painting to a charity — or find a way to use it for charitable purposes — he may have violated IRS rules against “self-dealing,” which prohibit nonprofit leaders from spending charity money on themselves.
On Wednesday, a new clue emerged. A former production manager for the portrait’s painter told The Post that he had shipped the painting — at the request of Trump’s wife, Melania — to Trump National Golf Club Westchester in Briarcliff Manor, N.Y.
Jody Young, the painter’s former manager, said that at the time he had spoken directly to Melania Trump about how the painting would be framed and displayed.
Donald Trump spent $258,000 from his charity to settle business fines and lawsuits, according to a report Tuesday. Not only did the GOP nominee fail to donate to his own charity since 2009, he used…
Trump spent charity money on business fines, portrait: report
Donald Trump spent $258,000 from his charity to settle business fines and lawsuits, according to a report Tuesday.
Not only did the GOP nominee fail to donate to his own charity since 2009, he used other people’s contributions to resolve legal troubles at his for-profit businesses, The Washington Post reported.
In one example, Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club owed $120,000 in unpaid fines in 2007 over a flagpole dispute with the town of Palm Beach. In a settlement, town officials agreed to waive the fine for a $100,000 donation to a veterans charity.
Trump also wrote a $158,000 check from the Trump Foundation to settle a lawsuit involving his golf course in Westchester.
The money went to the namesake foundation of the plaintiff, Martin Greenburg, who filed a lawsuit after hitting a hole-in-one during a 2010 charity benefit and thought he had qualified for a $1 million prize. …
“The Foundation’s assets are not his; those assets are irrevocably dedicated, by law, to charitable purposes,” said Rosemary Fei, a California-based lawyer specializing in nonprofits.
“Yet it appears he has used private foundation assets for his personal benefit or to benefit his companies. That’s classic self-dealing.”
Trump also spent $10,000 from the foundation for another portrait of himself at a charity fundraiser in 2014, adding to the $20,000 portrait purchased in 2007, The Washington Post said.
dropzone
September 3, 2017, 11:46pm
1779
mega sigh I had my chance in '72. I was a TeenAged Republican. (FTR, and this is the last resort of a guy, there was this girl… It’s how Steve Martin became a Philosophy major. She became a Christian writer; mine stayed Republican.) Rumsfeld was my congressman. I coulda been a contender, but no, my conscience intervened.
ETA: Dave W., who was dating my girl, called in a favor that had me leafletting for Nixon. '72 sucked.
BigT
September 4, 2017, 1:19am
1780
Bugged me a bit when I saw people on Facebook pushing some Day of Prayer that Trump had established for the victims. I went through multiple ways of replying before I wound up closing it because I couldn’t think of anything that couldn’t backfire. There’s just so much packed into all of that, and too much anger that might be lashed out at the wrong person.
It’s not easy (for me, at least) to come up with a diplomatic way to say that the guy who is asking you to pray is actually the non-Christian and is using it just to pull the wool over people’s eyes, while also not sounding super partisan or like a “hater.” Especially when one of the people who posted is a lady with severe anxiety disorder.