How I completely and totally shoot it all to hell again: The Bonsai Girl Incident.

My friends, here’s another tale of how *not *to go about your romantic affairs. Read it (if you can be arsed) and tremble. I give you:

The Bonsai Girl Incident, or: the disturbing tale of a tragic meeting between two complete morons.

Bonsai Girl was 20 years old and looked like she was 13. Bonsai Girl had the the most beautiful blue eyes in the universe, as the well as the most petite little body you ever saw. She rode the subway on child fare, and had a face that could launch a thousand ships. She appealed in the worst possible way to my semi-pedophile tendencies. I loved her! Just one look at her made my knees weak and made my private bits go all weird. She made me want to cry… write poetry… jump her in public. However, she was also, and this is what makes this a tragedy, completely and utterly unwilling to screw me, despite all signs pointing to the opposite.

I thought Bonsai Girl was the girl of my dreams. She blew me away, and I really thought I had a chance. I honestly believed that when a girl kisses you and grabs your junk, she means business. Well, not in this case. To sum it up quickly: over a period of several weeks we repeatedly engaged in kissing, hugging, removal of clothing, various kinds of fondling of intimate areas etc., only for her to each time halt all progress just as we were heading for the main event, pleading “not on the pill right now”, or “gotta get some sleep”. The next day she would act as if nothing interesting had happened, and as if the fact that we happened to be pretty much naked was perfectly normal and didn’t mean anything. I was in heaven and in hell at the same time. She would conveniently ignore the ever more disturbing blue shade of my balls (and with me dangling them in her face in a well-lit room, it’s not like it wasn’t obvious) and the fact my level of sexual frustration was rapidly approaching meltdown at a breakneck speed.

Perhaps she was just a bit prudish, you say? I don’t think so. Judging from the stories she told me about her sexual history, the opposite was true. No, my friends, this chick was simply evil. She was bad news. She was on a mission to make my balls explode, as well as my brain. I should have simply walked away, gotten the heck out of Dodge. Of course, I couldn’t, because I loved her. Madly.

Before long, I was starting to come apart at the seams. I declared my everlasting love and mad desire for her. I begged and pleaded, discussed and argued, for her to put me out of my misery, and let me have her hand in marriage, or at least let me boink her, just once. For crying out loud, just once! She said, “Wait and see. Haven’t decided yet. Maybe. I’ll think about it.” I guess I never really had a chance. Still, she let me carry on with the kissing, the fondling, the pleading. Finally, I snapped. I told her this was it – give me a clear yes or no. Stop fucking with my brain. Just fuck me in the proper fashion already, or get out. She replied “I don’t take well to pressure. The answer, then, is no.” Then she went home, and stopped answering my calls.

The strangest part of it all was that (and this must be mentioned just to show deranged the whole thing really is), on paper, Bonsai Girl wasn’t much of a catch, to put it mildly. After being kicked out by her former boyfriend, she was now living with her loony mother in the bad part of town, completely unable to find money for a new apartment. She had no education and no clue. She had dropped out of high school after one year, and had no realistic prospects of ever going back. Every weekend, she would hit the town and get drunk as a skunk. She was smoking large amounts of pot and Lucky Strikes. She had no steady job, no real qualifications, no sensible way to spend her time. No plans or ambitions, apart from a vague idea about wanting to move to Australia. No talents. She would mostly listen to bad music, watch TV and drink loads of beer. Every conversation with her would revolve around her problems with her life and her family. The girl had issues. Frankly, I don’t think she was all that happy with herself. Now, the thing is, I think of myself as a somewhat civilized person, with pretty darn good taste, and I figured I would show her a different world and charm my way into her pants that way. Of course, she didn’t care one bit about anything I showed her. She didn’t like Woody Allen. She didn’t like Mozart. Opera made her fall asleep. She never finished the novels I gave her. She would just go back to her rubbish rock’n’roll and bad TV shows.

However, she had those beautiful blue eyes! She smelled so good! All I wanted to do was to kiss every little part of her and do the dirty with her all night – if she would only give me the chance!

Anyway, where was I? After my first attempt of getting a straight answer from her she didn’t speak to me again for three weeks. At first, I didn’t eat or sleep. Everything lost its meaning. Gradually, it got better. After a while, I was able to leave the house in the morning again. I was able to see the humorous side of it all. I was determined to shake the disappointment.

Would I have been able to simply laugh and move on? I don’t know, because that’s when she called me again, asking if she could see me. So, of course, I kicked my best judgement out the window and ran (not walked) to meet up with her. She was looking as beautiful as a summer day. She said she was sorry. She was feeling guilty about having led me on like that. The thing was, she said, she liked me, but because of the trouble in her life she didn’t want a boyfriend right now, and I was such a nice guy that she didn’t want to hurt me by just having a casual thing with me.

Yeah. Like *that *would have hurt. What, was she a complete idiot or something? Heck, I would have worshipped her for the rest of my life, built a shrine to her, if she would just give me the teensy-weensiest bit of casual humping. I told her as much. She wasn’t convinced. Perhaps, she said, it would be better if we were just friends? That OK with me?

At this point it’s becoming clear that no nookie is forthcoming, and that I should just walk away. However, I’m of course right back where I was. My brain says forget this, but my dick is in combat gear and ready to go to war. I see her a couple of times. Nothing happens. I try to play it cool and not seem too desperate. Of course, in private I obsess, I plot, I brood, I slowly go crazy again, crazier than ever before.

Then, one Sunday, out of the blue, she kisses me again, just before she gets on the subway home. Angels appear. Roses start raining from the sky. My brain explodes and splatters all over the pavement. I’m rendered speechless. She gets on the subway, smiles and waves. I’m dropping things and babbling like an idiot the rest of the evening, I dance through the streets, I’m a total mess. This is it, I think. Surely, this means that she loves me too. After what has been going down, she can’t be stupid enough, or evil enough, to kiss me without it meaning something this time.

No such luck. It was all an evil plot. What happens next devastates me. The next day, I call her. She says oh, it’s you. Yeah, sorry, but dude, there’s no way. Not interested. Sorry about that kiss, it was a mistake, I’m not the girl for you and you’re not the guy for me. See you around, Buster, etc. Adios. Predictable, really, but still I’m flabbergasted. Shocked. Mortified.

That tantalizing taste of paradise with the following devastating rejection does it for me. General panic ensues. A great big tragic D minor chord is played by the full orchestra. Imagine my state of mind at this point: I’ve been reduced from a reasonably up-beat guy with a spring in my step, to a drooling, babbling moron, a complete nervous wreck, sexually frustrated beyond compare, about to explode with a love that has nowhere sensible to go, desperate, a world-class masturbator, shaking like a jellyfish, losing all grip on reality. I’m the suffering young Werther. A vulcano ready to explode.

She stops answering my calls again. I lose it. I call her number some 30 times, and leave screaming, horrible messages on her answering machine, calling her the nastiest things I can come up with, a damned cock tease, a bitch, a sadist. I send her about a hundred text messages, detailing the hundred different kinds of ways in which I hate her stinking little guts.

Today she tells me, on the phone, calmly, with no trace of emotion in her voice, that enough is enough. I’m obviously insane, and if I ever call her or attempt to see her again, even just once, she’ll call the fucking cops on me. Now, if I would be so kind and fuck the hell off. She does not, under any circumstanses, ever want to see me again, and that’s the end of it. Goodbye.

Now, I have a black hole in my soul. I’ve been thinking about this girl every day for months. She’s under my skin. She’s in my nostrils. The idea of somehow, someday figuring out how to bang her had become my sole obsession, I’ve fucked it up royally, and I feel like the biggest idiot who ever walked the earth.

The moral of this story? Heck, I don’t even know if there is one, and that’s the hardest part of it all. Comments are welcome.

Don’t ever let this happen again.

That was a lot to take in, but the part that stands out to me is that her *only *redeeming aspect was her looks. Can you do a little self-examination and see how completely foolish it is to become so obsessed on such little promise? Seriously, it sounds like you have some shit to work out. She was yanking you from Day 1, and you seem to have realized it, but were unable to help yourself.

Also, if it does happen again, ixnay on the phone and text messages. That way lies potential big trouble.

Disclosure - I have been Bonsai Girl, I have put up giant red flag warnings to persistent men, who have persisted despite the red flag warnings. It always ends in tears. More theirs than mine.

You knew you never stood a chance, and you went for it anyway.

She told you she didn’t want the same thing you did. That was your opportunity to run screaming in the opposite direction, thus saving you a few more heartaches and giving you a head start on the healing process.

It sounds to me like she never wanted to hurt you, rather that she was confused, and honest with you about it. (Except for the part where she called you after three weeks. That was shitty.)

If she’d said from the start “This isn’t going to work. I like to kiss you and grab your junk but I don’t want you the way you want me, so let us end all contact right now,” would you have heeded?

The moral: pay attention to the red flag warnings. They are for your own good.

Ahhh!Youth!

Or if not just plain hornyness.

Remember the old addage young grasshopper - never let your little head do the think’in!

Yup. I’m an idiot. I’m also an asshole. And boy do I know it. I guess I had some bad shit coming, and this is all just poetic justice in some crazy way. But I swear that I loved her, just in a somewhat… *perverted *sort of way.:smack:

There are two chances that I would have heeded. And by that, I’m referring to “extremely slim” and “frick all”. :smack:

But darn it… in my part of the woods, grabbing of junk is supposed to mean something. What part of the rule book did I misread? Isn’t she even the tiniest bit to blame here? Shouldn’t she at the very least have realized that this would end badly?

Know what the worst part is? I’m not all that young. At all. And still I keep walking into bullshit like a blind chicken. :smack:

I say this with absolutely no judgment, and ‘not all that young’ is a relative term, but if she is twenty and looks thirteen, you are sounding more like a chicken hawk. And not the political kind, if you know what I mean. Don’t let that get out of control.

Two separate questions. I honestly don’t see much room for “blame” in any relationship beyond taking ownership of your own actions and learning from them.

(Besides, there’s not enough info here for me to take anybody’s side, I can only see it from my own perspective. Perhaps she was a total bee-yotch but the way you’ve represented it here doesn’t say that to me.)

If she hurt you and you let her, what’s the point of talking about blame? And she could well have realized that it would end badly, but she liked grabbing your junk so much that she put up with it (for exactly the same reason that you realized it would end badly, but liked grabbing HER junk so much that you put up with it).

The fact that you liked her way more than she liked you meant that the stakes were much higher for you. She didn’t have as much to lose as you. You have to take care of your own stuff, especially in situations like this.

I’m sorry this happened to you. She did lead you on.

But now you need to get over it and that leaving messages and texting thing is just a bad idea any way you slice it.

Seems to me you’re no worse off than she is, and could have crossed your legs and shied away if you found any of this invasive. If she didn’t promise you bed, if she didn’t promise you hearts & forever, you aren’t entitled to hearts and forever, you aren’t entitled to bed. A tactile inspection of your parts is its own event; it don’t promise nothing. Don’t assume things not in evidence, etc.

Actually it kind of sounds like more fun than agony. But then I always did love a CT…

And the grabbing of the junk. And the kissing.

I know exactly where you’re coming from Peak Banana.

Pardon the pun.

Bleh. That sucks for you, fella. It sounds like you fell way too hard and way too fast.

I guess…“such is life”, huh?

Damned cockteases.

We you by chance supplying her with either beer, pot, Lucky Strikes or all of the above?

If so, she was in it for the beer, pot and Lucky Strikes and you were in it for the hoochie-coochie. She had you right where she wanted you.

Good point, but that still means he was listening to his wang instead of his brain.

Your story reminded me of one in the book “Surely You’re Joking Mr. Feynman”, where Feynman (a Nobel prize winning physicist) complains that he was always buying women drinks in this bar but he was never getting laid. A friend tipped him off that he was making a mistake by being a gentleman (p. 170 of the paperback - I heartily recommend the whole book). In effect he should never buy a woman anything until she had agreed to have sex with him. It was so alien to his nature that he had a hard time actually trying it, but supposedly once he did it worked like a charm.

While this may not be a good approach in general, it sounds like what this chick needs. While you should probably not call her since you’re now pretty much at the stalking stage, if, by chance she should contact you, you could make it clear that unless she agrees to have sex you’re not going to see her at all. She’ll probably turn you down, but at least it gives her some incentive to change her behavior. Up to now she’s gotten what she wants without giving you what you want.

You may be right, and this is the thing I’m beating myself up over the most. I could have just gone along with it all and gotten plenty of junk-grabbing out of it. In hindsight, that’s a damned much better scenario than where I’m at now. Like two million percent better. But, hey, I don’t pretent to be the good guy here. Up to the point where I laid it on the line, and she said “no” and didn’t call me for three weeks, this story is rather benign. Everything from that onwards is a study of the perverse workings of a very sick mind - and by that I mean mine.

Now, that’s interesting advice. Well, by now the fact that I’m not game unless screwage ensues is probably clear to her. Also, the chances that she’ll call me again are probably pretty darn slim, considering that I’m a psycho and all.

By the way - holy crap - something just occured to me. I guess I’ll just as well make the humiliation complete and bring it up before someone else does.

Originally posted by Vinyl Turnip, in this almost equally pathetic thread:

Crap crappety crap. There aren’t enough :smack:'s in the world for this… Yeah, I posted about her when I first met her. No, certainly not the same thing, at all. In fact, this beats the heck out of that previous thing for sheer moronicness on all levels.

You know, I’m giving up on romance. For good. I’m just not cut out for it, I guess. Being a total and complete moron, and all, as well as a psycho.

Not worth saving only leaving
She’s in it for the nicotine, boy…

(so few chances to drop a Park reference, not that anyone’s gonna get it.)

People often drop the "C-T’ word when inappropriate but I’d say that’s literally true, in this case.

Add me to the people who think it’s a person best left forgotten ieven if it’s difficult: even if wonder of wonders happens and she falls in love with you, falling in love doesn’t change people’s character no matter what romance would have us believe (not that you personally believe that.) So you’d still be with a person who plays mind games.

What you have described in this thread was not romance. It was lust.

Romance is about finding a soul mate. Someone who shares your aspirations and makes you laugh. Someone you like as well as love. :cool: :smiley:

It’s not some talentless drunk with no ambitions, who just happens to be good-looking. :rolleyes:

Who the hell leaves screaming ranting voice mails nowadays? Really? Who does that?

That shit can always come back to haunt you.

Oh… you kind of come off as creepy in this story… really creepy.

You didn’t fuck it up.
It was never going to happen.
It was fucked up to begin with.

Next time try not to act like such a stalker.

No kidding, dude. I don’t really like myself a whole lot right now. I’m just honestly hoping the cops don’t show up on my doorstep. I’m not going within a mile’s reach of that poor cock te… excuse me, that poor girl again, and that’s for her good more than mine. As I said, I’m not pretending to be the good guy in this story. Not asking for sympathty. I *am *creepy. I acted like one sick puppy, and I’m not liking myself for it. Let the public spanking commence when you’re ready.

In fact, as of right now, I’m not sure I should even talk to a girl again at all. Seeing that I’m capable of this kind of shit, it’s probably not worth the risk.