Wow, you really are a Keeper of Secrets. That’s a tough one.
It never used to bother me, and I guess it still doesn’t, but I am starting to become more modest and unwilling to be the provocative exhibitionist of my past. I must be maturing or something.
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It is tough indeed.
It is a sad situation in several ways, and it is bringing a lot of pain and tears into my life right now (possibly some pain to him too, I think), with no reason to expect that it will change.
BTW, I meant to add in my earlier post that you may include me among those who never ever fantasize about real people — from my earliest days of sexuality, my fantasies have always been just anonymous, meaningless people, like a porn video or a Penthouse forum letter. I’ve never fantasized about a movie star or someone I saw in public or someone I actually knew.
Until recent months, that is, when I found that my lover-not-to-be has become my first-ever real-person fantasy and the only fantasy that seems to have any spark at all in it for me now. But this isn’t about that, so I’ll shut up now.
In threads like these, I always compare Dutch sexual mores to the " American" mores expressed in the thread. Oddly, I’ve found a niche where the Dutch are much more prudish they Americans: IMHO telling a friend you fantasized about her would be a big no-no over here.
Perhaps Dutch sexual mores are that you can do anything and talk openly about it, as long as you keep a sort of detached attitude about it.
You know, walking around the Red light District “just to go tourist watching”, or checking out porn “just to study it from a feminist POV”, or going to a discotheque but only because you’re fifteen and “discovering” the other sex, or having sex just because you love someone. Going out hunting for sex, but is only allowed culturally in the Netherlands if you admit to having an intimacy problem later. Guys here, like anywhere, keep their porn private, but that holds for fantasies too.
None of this: “I’m a red-blooded male with needs”-stuff. God, we’ve internalized repression to levels you guys never heard of. :eek:
Probably only one person. And I was engaged twice before. They cheated on me in reality, so why would they fantasize about me in their spare time? :smack:
I don’t know if those videos of me on the internet count; the people watching them don’t have the first idea who I am, soo… I don’t know. Or does it matter if they are an aquaintance or not? If it doesn’t matter… uh… well, I still don’t know. That place got a lot of hits and I wasn’t the only one there.
A related question popped into my head today. Of the 600+ couples I’ve married, how many of the brides thought of me on their wedding night? There has to be at least a few in that group.
Perhaps what you’ve done is to compartmentalize sex. (Maybe the little white booths in the red-light district are a physical expression of that.) Keep sex in a Zone, where you can visit it all you want, so long as you hold it well away from Real Life.
How do you put the moves on a Dutchwoman, anyway? “Have you had your basement pumped out lately, Liesbeth?” “Marijke, those cows of yours look like they could stand a good milking.” “Kaatje, let’s get together tonight and conduct some experiments in extreme population density. At my place.”
That might have made me feel better if the little cartoon guy didn’t look so much like Larry “Shut Up, Stop Whining and Get A Life” Winget. Thinking about him as anybody’s fetish just drives me further into my own cracked and slimy little shell.
I used to work high end weddings in a New Orleans bed and breakfast. I looked pretty good in my tux and I was the one that personally delivered the champagne and delictables to the bride in her room at the end of the reception. I would always say “Is there anything else you I can do for you?” They never said it but they were thinking it and I am sure that the new hubby was just a stand-in that night much of the time.
Someone that could rack up extreme numbers in this poll is any moderately hot female teacher for kids over 5th grade. Besides every single male student they ever had in class, they pick up a large percentage of other students and faculty as well.
Never thought about such a question before. I guess I can kind of assume that if a guy liked me and we either never dated or never had any sort of intimite relationship that there’s a chance he may have fantasized about me.
So probably 20 or 25 there. Ick. Looking back on some of those people now…I hope they didn’t.
I’m fiercely loyal to my SO. I don’t fantasize about anyone but him, because (WARNING: stupid gushy love stuff coming up) he is my fantasy. Everything about him I just love and if I were thinking about anyone else well…it still wouldn’t be as good. And I know fantasies are supposed to be freaky stuff that you wouldn’t do in real life, but I pretty much have that with him anyway so there’s no need for me to fantasize about something else.
If he wants to fantasize about someone else, I wouldn’t really care. He doesn’t say that he does and I doubt he would admit to it anyway. Hey, what goes on inside his head is his business.
If some guy told me that he had been masturbating to thoughts of me, I’d definitely not be flattered. Actually, I’d be kind of creeped out and not want to be around that person anymore. Like I said before, a person’s thoughts are their business and I don’t feel the need to know about the perversions of others. Also, I would find something like that to be threatening to my relationship with my SO and I definitely don’t go for that sort of thing. I have had guys say that they liked me while I was in a relationship and I genereally sever ties with that person, because my relationships are more important than some stupid crush/fantasy/whatever that some guy randomly has on me.