*From the original link:
"One tells a sceptical unmarried mother: “It’s hardly surprising that you are single, as what man would want to marry such an obnoxious, man-hating creature as you?”*
Pseudoscientific Self-Help Rule #7: It is not enough that you feel better. Everyone else must be made to feel worse.
–sublight.
Ummmmmmm… no…
But! Let’s face it guys! The women rule!
I’m not 100% happy about this, but I AM realistic… if Astrofiancee wants something, she gets it!
“Why?”, you ask. Because SHE can live for FAR LONGER without sex than I! It’s that simple!!
Ladies: stop using sex as a weapon! Then we men could win most of the time!!
I think I speak for most men here, when I say: We love you, Ladies!! You ROCK, and you are MUCH closer to God than we men will ever be… Please don’t leave us!!
[sup]Did that sound pathetic?[/sup]
I absolutely agree with everything in this article. Well… maybe not everything, but a lot of it. Well, most of it is garbage, but there were a lot of good points made. Well, not a lot of good points, but some. Ok Ok OK!.. just one…
“give him lots of oral sex and be sure to swallow”
Oh goody! We’re back to egyptian times! “Yes, there is such a thing as God, and he is the pharoah.”
I think a subserviant woman would just creep me out. Well, you know, after about ten minutes that is…
P.S. Does that book count as science fiction?
Um…
Amoebae cause dysentery.
This article was the topic of some discussion on Jane’s Guide oh, a couple of months ago. So in the interest of fairness, I took myself out and read what she had to say.
IMHO? One part Marabel Morgan, one part John Gray (whose work I personally abhor), one part pap. Mix well and try not to heave after you read it.
My problem isn’t necessarily with some of her messages; my problem is how they’re going to be interpreted. If she simply said “Be nice to your husband and treat him as if he were special,” I could understand that. (Which, flowery crap aside, is all Marabel Morgan was really saying.) If she simply said, “Try to communicate with and accommodate each other,” I could understand that; that’s basically John Gray’s message, and although his presentation annoys the heck out of me, the message is basically valid.
My main problem is not with her saying, “Don’t be bitchy.” If that were it, I could deal with the message and simply accept the fact that it was delivered in a manner that I personally found a bit schlocky, but which might appeal to others. What does bother me is that I really see the potential for a lot of her theories to be taken out of context and used for great harm, and one really couldn’t say that about the theories of Gray or Morgan.
One of the reasons women stay in abusive relationships as long as they do is a) the abuser takes care to isolate them as much as he can so that they lose a sense of perspective as to just how bad things are getting; and b) they don’t want to admit that they’ve screwed up so badly with their choice of husband. It sounds unbelievable, but it’s true. Therefore, while I’m glad Doyle puts in caveats that one shouldn’t surrender if one is in an abusive relationship, the fact is, I really wonder if they will be heeded.
Cranky, I fully agree with you that there are many women out there who don’t value the good men they have; I’m lucky enough to have a wonderful one now, and he certainly wasn’t treated right by his former wife. But the thing is, I don’t see the women who need this message taking heed of this message – or indeed, even seeing their behavior needs to be remedied. I do see abused women who are already in denial taking this message, saying to themselves, “But of course, my Charlie isn’t abusive!” and surrendering away, Doyle’s warnings aside.
Finally, if I really thought Doyle was acting out of a wish to help, that would be one thing…but I’m just cynical enough to wonder if she chose precisely the phrasing that she did, the way that she did, because she knew it would generate publicity (good or bad, doesn’t matter) and therefore, sell books, whereas, just saying, “The Non-Bitchy Wife” would generate less interest, less publicity, less furor, and therefore, less sales.
I don’t know if this is the case, and I don’t wish to condemn someone I don’t know…but does anyone else who’s read her stuff get that feeling, too? Or not?
“The first rule for a great sex life is to be respectful and wear something sheer and lacy.”
Ha! You know HER sex life sucks!
[slight hijack] I have heard that if you can get your partner to eat pineapple or drink pineapple juice about 45 minutes to two hours before the act it can help with that problem. No I haven’t personally tried this. [/slight hijack]
Don’t know if the above is in reference to me. If so it
has never been mentioned. I’d like to know so I can do
something about for my next relationship
…
My wife tried hanging out with the women in my loop of friends. Every time they all got together, the other women made fun of their husbands and downgraded them. They’d go out weekly to the movies, while their husbands stayed home with the kids, and mocked their husbands. Meanwhile, all my friends work hard and do a lot around the house (fixing everything, building their houses and garages, building additions to their houses, etc.), and never talk poorly about their wives.
Mrs. Clucky was sickened and refused to talk badly about me. She would counter what they said by pointing out something good I did. Everyone just looked at her like she had two heads. She stopped going on the Girls Night Out. I don’t blame her. I was surprised by what she told me.
Right… Because when I leave for work the last thing I do before I walk out the door is leave my vagina. It feels so good to put it back on when I come home again. :rolleyes: