Ward Cleaver? Is that you?
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the former Mrs Stern was already remarried. Obviously her standards for a husband are low.
Did any of you see ‘Private Parts’? The one thing that came through that movie loud and clear was that Stern loved his wife an awful lot. The movie has been described as a love letter to his wife.
And EVERY time I heard him speak on TV when he wasn’t ‘in character’ pretty much all he would talk about was how great his wife was, and how much he loved her, and how lucky he was.
I think it’s safe to say that he didn’t want the marriage to end. But that’s as far as I’d speculate. For all I know he gets drunk and beats women. Who knows?
Yeah, I have to agree sort of. Even if he was different off air, how does that make what he says on air any better. He insults people for a living and who cares what he’s like after work, the hole world isn’t listening to him then? I’m not saying that he shouldn’t have a right to be an idiot, I just think it’s a little sad that so many people like him.
I AM into ‘shock jock’ radio, but he is SO BLAND to me! The reason why a lot of people DO go on his show is because they are probably afraid of him. He has a lot of listeners, and something negative about a performer may narrow his or her audience. He sends people to harass Celebes publicly asking STUPID questions, and get off on it.
He does tell you what he truly believes a lot, and will say something like “I’m serious, this isn’t an act, I think we should kill all the sharks, every one of them… GONE!” This man doesn’t seem to bright to me. He says stupid stuff like that all the time, and tells people that it’s not an act. HE IS, however, smart for building such a successful “entertainment” radio program.
So, Justinh, just want to say that you shouldn’t let it bother you much. Everyone sees thing differently… but you’re NOT alone.
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According to the NY Post, Allison has recently married a “gadzillionaire” and Howard is very happy for her. Guess she didn’t stay with him for the money.
You never know someone until you are married to them. Seldom does the world know what actually goes on behind closed doors. There’s two sides to every story. Enough said.
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C’mon Crunchy. we all know it’s a womans job to an empty vessle for her husbands ambition! She should have been happy to raise his kids and clean his house and…and…
Hell, I can’t do it.
You just can’t stay married if you don’t invest the time in the relationship.
As has been mentioned here, we don’t know these people well enough to make the assumption of whose fault it is and isn’t. From what we hear on the air, in the book, in the press, etc. it was pretty well known that there were many troubles and tensions in that marriage, even though they loved each other very much - and there’s no doubt they still love each other despite everything that has happened.
Alison wanted a normal life - spending time with her husband, kids, friends, doing things that normal people do. Howard loved her and his kids, but he didn’t want the “normal” family life. He didn’t want to go anywhere, didn’t want to see anyone, hated to be seen in public, etc. A situation where fame got the best of someone - he lived a life where he could stroke strippers at his job, be mobbed by fans in public and have women begging to have sex with him. After 20 years, they just grew in different directions - she still wanting a life and marriage, he wanting to be left alone or go to fancy parties (without her most of the time). It was just the progression of the career vs relationship.
From what I’ve heard, he just sat alone by himself when he was at home, griping at everyone. He was away alot-and they have how many daughters-three? I mean, she may have felt she was left to raise them all by herself.
From what I heard this morning at about 6:30 EST…
She did get married recently to a rich guy. Howard says he is happy for her/them. They joked about whether the guy was rich before, or if he was just rich now because he married Allison and now has 1/2 of Howard’s money.
The Controvert, I think you’ve got some issues there pal. You’re just a little to passionately on one side of this issue without any valid reason to be. I can’t believe you have some special insight into their marriage; what are you their paperboy or something?
Without knowing much more than the average fan, I’m sure she had a few things to be unhappy with, most obvious to anybody with more than 7 neurons:
a) like any highly successful person he works a lot and that means he’s spending time working instead of time with his family. That’s how it works. Success is not free, and stress in the marriage and family are pretty typical byproducts.
b) Have you actually seen/heard his show? Isn’t it even a little obvious to you that his schtick could be hard on the marriage? The fact that by all accounts he’s a decent guy off the set is almost irrelevant. She lives in a fishbowl and everybody she meets on the street is aware of intimate and often embarassing details of her life.
I’m not saying that in fact he was the cause of the divorce. I don’t know the details. But I suspect you don’t either.
Nice how you group those together. :rolleyes:
Me, I think he’s very funny. And sexy.
um, yep… sexy man. could get a lot of women… wait, what does that tell you about women? that SOME are morons?
MOST men are too, don’t get me wrong, (look at howard stern)… just not in the same way
Not gonna debate that some people are morons, but that isn’t the issue at hand. None of us (that I know of) knows Howard Stern personally, so we can’t judge this situation, really. From what I’ve seen (his radio show, his TV show and the movie Private Parts --which rocked) he doesn’t seem like a jerk to me. I guess I don’t take his persona seriously, whereas some people do.
well, ok I guess. I guess it doesn’t matter that he talks about the stains in his wife panties on the air… as long as he’s ok in REAL LIFE, when he’s not talking about personal stuff to millions of people.
but I understand what attracts you to him, I personally long for a woman who will eventually wake me up one morning by farting in my face. Now you could say that he probably doesn’t do that in REAL LIFE, but with watching his movie I wouldn’t doubt it. Even if she doesn’t do it in REAL LIFE, I would at LEAST hope that she talks about doing that stuff to me on the air.
If he doesn’t bring his act into REAL LIFE, why does he bring his REAL LIFE into his act?
What’s wrong with that?
I think he married the wrong person, if his wife can’t handle being a semi-celebrity. Although I have never heard that this was a problem.
Yes, I have been speculating and I hope I’ve been honest about it. I am not the Stern’s paperboy, just a fan who has listened to his show and read his books and seen his movie.
The reason I put some blame on Allison is because she appears to be the root cause. At least to me. Howard didn’t want to get divorced, Allison did. As one poster put it, Howard’s life was great, why would he want a divorce?
All the reasons so far (Howard talks about their personal life, Howard farts at home, Howard is a “scumbag”, Howard does not spend “enough” time with her, Allison has to raise 3 children “on her own”) are not serious enough that it couldn’t be worked out. Allison has a small army of domestic servants to help her raise the children. Allison is not the first person who ever had to raise children or deal with a busy husband.
Ok, on to the serious reasons. Standard of living is clearly not a problem. Howard never cheated on Allison. Sure, he might have ogled some nekkid strippers, but he never had an affair. As Howard put it, as soon as he cheats it would be all over the media. Howard did not physically abuse Allison. If he did, Allison is outspoken enough that she would have reported it.
So, what does the wife do if she wants out and can’t find a legitimate reason? Finding the most important thing in your husband’s life and demanding that he give it up seems to work.
This is starting to feel like the PIT, so I’ll stop here.
You are missing the whole point of marriage. Marriage isn’t just having a house and kids. It’s about being with your soul mate, communication, and sharing life.
You listed things that are superficial. If she had all she needs to raise the kids, live a comfortable lifestyle, and Howard was never around, then why be married? I think Allison took a look at her life and saw that Howard wasn’t really around much. She probably was bored.
Marriages don’t fail because one spouse fails to deliver the goods.
I don’t think she ever asked Howard to give up his radio show. His TV show and the other productions he was involved in probably took up all his time away from the radio. When you work in morning radio, your hours are not just 5-10 a.m., there’s post production work that takes well into the afternoon. She probably didn’t think it was necessary. Yes he has a right to do them but she’s not at all unrealistic to ask him not to.
A marriage isn’t just an arrangement where a husband brings home the money and the wife takes it and raises the kids, no questions asked. She’s not at all in the wrong for asking Howard to spend more time home. He chose not to, she chose not to be married. It’s all very simple.
I disagree. I think that perception of marriage is what leads to divorce.
They were married long before Howard was a celebrity. There is no evidence that the attention that he’s received – and that was cast upon Allison as well – was something that she wanted but it certainly was out of her control.
There are instances in which one party in a relationship isn’t happy with the ramifications that their partner’s career is having on their lives, but in order to be supportive, they don’t complain, hoping that things will change, or that they’ll grow desensitized to the problem. When it finally grows to become unbearable and they have to complain for their own sanity, the partner views it as an illogical betrayal. “What do you mean this bothers you? For all these years you’ve been fine with it! I don’t want to hear all this complaining!”
Am I the only one who can imagine this scenario occurring in the Stern marriage?
Howard’s life was great – Allison’s clearly wasn’t or she wouldn’t have left him. If her life wasn’t happy because of problems with Howard, then they both bore the responsibility to work out those problems to their mutual satisfaction. It would seem that they were unable to do that.
Servants don’t raise children. Servants can make sure that they have clean clothes and food, and even help with homework. But that isn’t raising children, that’s caring for them, which is different. The raising of children is the responsibility of the parents, plural, and that means that both of them need to input time, energy and emotional effort – a parent who, by his own admission, spends time locked away from his family trying to “unwind” on his own is not being a good parent. He is not raising his children. Similarly, he is not putting forth the effort required to be a good spouse, which also demands work and time. He is not fulfilling his responsibilities to his spouse or the kids – and if the cause of it is the stresses of his job, then the spouse and kids have every right to suggest (and I’d go so far as to say demand) that he attempt to reduce his work-caused stresses so that he was better able to cope, and therefore spend more time being actively involved with his family.
And some women might feel betrayed by a husband who spends hours in the presence of other women who are pruriently naked. And you discount emotional abuse, or neglect, which are just as damaging and detrimental and physical abuse.
If work, and the baggage that it carries, is a detriment to the marriage, then it is as legitimate an impediment to the continuation of that marriage as any other fundamental problem.
The simple fact is this – the Stern marriage was broken and they could not fix it. It happens to millions of couples every year, the only difference is that most couples, even celebrity couples, don’t have one partner who will gladly use this personal tragedy as fodder for his “entertainment” schtick, and will present the story in a method clearly designed to enhance sympathy toward himself. What we’ve heard is not the truth of the matter, and any report that we hear will not be the truth of the matter, regardless of the source. None of us were in the marriage, none of us had to put up with what Allison did, or what Howard did. Speculating on the reasons why is useless. She’s moved on, he’s moved on, so should we.