Can’t Recall,
I don’t need to see an image to know that you are far more attractive than Callista Gingrigh. That is an ugly, unattractive woman.
Your case for doubting her claims is based on ridiculous reasoning. So of course you’re going to get called out for that.
I’d just like to point out that in the second paragraph of the OP, she states:
So all of you asking for proof of her ugliness, she has actually already admitted she isn’t ugly.
This. I’ve met gorgeous women that I couldn’t stand once they stanrted talking. What’s even less attractive than appearence is a bad attitude, a feeling of inferiority, of bitterness, that is apparent to others. A great attitude and personality really shine.
Teach youself to not be superficial and not be overly concerned about others who are. It’s that kind of culture, but ultimately a positive attitude will attract others who are more substantial.
OP registers to make this thread and only posts to this thread, bemoaning in the title how UGLY she is, then going on to say “plain… may not be gross looking” then goes on further to describe a perfectly normal looking human female by all accounts.
Trollololololol.
The woman of my dreams…
Yep. Or plain women who become much more attractive once they start talking.
For a very narrow and shallow definition of “beauty” perhaps. I’m not here to convince you otherwise, you’ll either outgrow that perception on your own or you won’t, and either way it won’t affect anyone who isn’t you.
Sometimes young people are beautiful in a flawless, plastic, blank way. A Stepford-wives way. And sometimes they’re just bony.
This is certainly true of many of them. Also, some women might learn how to better take care of themselves in their 30s and look better than in their 20s. Nevertheless, in general, the peak of physical beauty for women is in their 20s and not their 30s.
We men are probably evolutionarily programmed to find women, in general, most sexually attractive during their years of peak fertility, which would be their 20s. “Physical beauty” may or may not be synonymous with sexual attractiveness.
Then by that same token, those wide “child-bearing hips” of which the OP despairs would be the ideal of all us Venus of Willendorf-Jones’n cavemales.
I think the wisest advice to give the OP is to not worry about what men find desirable. Stop measuring yourself against their standards, because it’s harder to find self-acceptance that way. All this talk about “men are programmed to find women blah blah blah” is furthering the idea that women must see themselves through the male gaze.
This is a problem most women can relate to, actually. You look in the mirror and criticize yourself because you can’t see how any guy could be attracted to you. The solution to this problem is not to convince yourself that men do find you attractive. The answer is to learn to see and respect the beauty that you have. Appreciate your body for what it can do as well. 50 years from now, the OP will be kicking herself for not recognizing how great she has it right now. Presumably she’s healthy and strong and reasonably fit. A perfect specimen, in other words. This should not be taken for granted.
Of course this would make the guys start thinking of you sexually. If that’s what you’re going for.
And this would definitely do the trick.
So you’re unattractive compared to your hot sister and your hot friends. Can you at least post pics of THEM? It would give us an idea of what you are talking about.
And at your age it is perfectly normal to want the hot guys. A sure way of getting them is making sure they understand that you will not follow them around like a puppy if they get with you and then don’t follow them around like a puppy if they get with you.
Probably
We’re pretty one dimensional that way. If not for that drive, most guys would be happy living in a rerfrigerator box with a Sony Playstation.
Easy for you to say.
It still seems mean. And from what I can tell, she is not here to read your comment so its kind of gratuitous as well. From what I can tell, you thought she was hot in some way and she shot you down because of she thought you were a tool based on your posts.
If your car is expensive enough for women to come find you, why would you have to go park your car? And why would you care how long everyone else had to wait, its not like they’re gonna make you wait?
I didn’t want to offend the guy.
Yeah, on behalf of guys, I’ll let you women in on a secret:
[whisper] **We’re idiots. **[/whisper]
Think life is shit being an ugly chick? Try being an ugly, blue collar guy.
You don’t even get ‘pretend’ affection from some chick who wants to bang you.
Nobody’s going to hold doors open or offer you seats 'cause you look like you had a bad day. It might be infrequent for you, but it DOES happen.
There is no ‘men’s night.’ (Unless it’s a gay bar.)
Seriously, look at the nerdy, asymmetric faced poindexter in class, tail him a bit, watch what happens… People are indifferent to you, but are outright dicks to him.
That aside, a lot of it for a lady is in style, not looks. I know a lot of women that are slimmer/more well endowed/etc. than a lot of other women, but come off as less attractive, simply due to style alone.
Keep in mind, low 20-somethings are bundles of hormones looking to bed as many women, as attractive as possible (for the most part.) That, and remember, for every person that finds you unattractive and says it, there’s one that DOES, but hasn’t said a word.
Buck up, chipper!
Get your hair dyed, get a spa treatment, throw on a pair of T’n’A’s, a baby phat jacket and go to a bar.
BOOM, you’re attractive.
I’ll go to the same bar in an Armani. Watch me get laughed at.
(Learn the gift of gab… Or how to talk dirty :P)
Damn, baby, why you gotta be so mean to me?
And hang out with some of your large breasted friends. They have to spend a fortune on bras, can’t run without them, it’s all blokes staring at their tits, whether they try to cover them up or not, it’s a fucking zoo around them. They’ll hook up with some guy only to find he’s all about big tits, never mind the rest of her. They often look unbalanced with flat butts. Yes my big breasted friends can enjoy the attention, but their tits are the main thing they lament. They can’t wear this and they can’t wear that.
Anyway, I started dating this bloke, so my mate was all jealous. “That short arsed bald headed chubby motherfucker?” quoth he. I look my friend up and down while he mutters “I’m not bald”. 
The idea is this, you dont care how long the line is, or where you park. You are doing it to advertise your money and confidence. Show off expensive ride, approach hottest chick like you always talk to women that hot. Since you are not trying to pick her up, no pressure. The rest of the line does not hear what you said to her, so they let their imagination fill in the blanks.
You have just made yourself into the guy who drives a hot car who gets all the hot babes. Doesent matter what you look like or actually are.
It’s absurdly simplistic, like saying “All Americans weigh 209 poiunds.”
The average beauty high mark for a woman might be in the 20s, but it’s an extremely wide range. Some women peak around 16-19, some in their 20s, some in their 30s, and even a few in their 40s and beyond. I can effortlessly name half a dozen or more women I went to high school with who never looked as good in their 20s as they did in their late teens. I know of at least a few who look BETTER now than they did in their 20s (I, and they, are ~40.) One of my old classmates recently celebrated her 40th and as I live and breathe I am telling you that woman is more beautiful than she was in high school or university, and she was no uggo then. I can with ease name many, many women who peaked later than their 20s.
Of course I can name many who peaked in their 20s too, but its not universal, and depends on a lot of factors:
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Physical fitness. A person’s fitness can change. I look much more attractive now at 40 than I did at 35 because I’m 60 pounds lighter.
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Genetics. Some people grow into their features and have features that age well; George Clooney, for instance, was a much more handsome man in his late 30s than he was in his 20s. Many people are still a bit too angular and gangly in the 20s and it softens later.
On a man, boyish good looks will often grow into mannish good looks later in life. If a guy starts out looking mannish and rugged he’ll run out faster, and look grizzled and hairy earlier on.
- Style, makeup, and presentation. If a person who previously dressed like a fishwife, to use Eve’s wonderful turn of phrase, gets it in to their head to try harder, they can look better. (This is another reason I look better now; losing weight made me more interested in nice clothes and other apsects of my appearance.) You absolutely can dramatically change your attractiveness with style and attention to detail.
I know many, many people, including myself once, who seriously impede their looks **just by wearing improperly fitting clothes. ** I have complained before that I feel today is the worst dressed that people in the western world have ever been, and this is part of it. I was guilty of it myself though in fairness when you have to buy XXL you don’t have a lot of affordable options; once I got down to a normal size I could buy nicer clothes.
What was interesting is this; people never noticed I was losing weight when I lost the weight. They always noticed I had lost weight after I bought new clothes.
- Body type. I may be off base with this one but my perception, going by my high school friends, is that women who were voluptuous at 18 aged quickly, and often peaked then or in their very early 20s. Women who had slimmer bodies peaked later; women with athletic bodies someone peaked later still; women who are very skinny can go either way, depending on whether they fill our or become a bit too skinny, I’ve seen both. One woman I went to school with who was a figure skater is now 40 and I’m telling you she’s never looked better. Smoking hot. If she wasn’t married I’d move just to date her. I suspect this is because you’re going to inevitably add body mass, and if a woman is already voluptuous at 18 she risks being overweight early, while a slimmer woman, by adding 20 pounds, will fill out into a really nice body.
With men I think this is equally true but it also depends on their height; a taller man can carry more weight with a bit more style than a shorter man.
- Lifestyle. A woman who smokes hasn’t nearly the same chance of maintaining her looks the way a woman who doesnt smoke and leads a healthy lifestyle does.
As to the OP I dunno, but 5’7" and 130 pounds, she’s got a body you can definitely work with.