If I feel like going to a bar while travelling, I prefer to head out into town and find some local dive with dart boards and maybe live music. Sometimes though, I’m just tired, or I’m pretty sure I’m in the mood for more drinks than I should drive with. That’s when a hotel bar comes in handy. Plus there’re 40-something travelling salesladies to pass the time with! And hookers, which is what I would have assumed the youngsters in the OP’s tale were.
Dear God in His heaven.
Ok, the girls sitting on the knees of those “Guidos” linked to previously looked almost normal. Neither of them looked like that…thing… you posted. < There is no emoticon for what I want to express here>
ETA: I guess I need to say that I almost never feel like going to a bar, although I will with friends or to meet Dopers. I never feel like going to a bar when I’m alone. I’m not much of a drinker. <realizes she has no life; hangs head>
Did you get your rocks off posting that, little man? C’mon, be honest. You can tell Uncle Chimera.
I don’t go bars to “brawl in my off time” or pick up girls or anything like that. I go to bars to be social and to avoid just sitting around the hotel room watching pay per view. That’s pretty typical behavior for business travelors of any age.
To contrast, a few nights ago I went to a different bar for dinner and ended up hanging out with some dude I just met there for like 3 hours, shooting the shit. The following night I happened to strike up a conversation with a pair of women at the restaurant I was dining at who happened to know the owner. 99.9% of the time, it’s a good time. That’s what makes business travel fun (or at least bearable). So should I hide in the hotel room because of the assholes who ruin the remaining 00.1%?
Nothing wrong with 40-something salesladies if you’re single (I’m 37 remember).
If it were just hookers and other business people, there would likely have been no problems. These people tend to keep to themselves and avoid trouble.
The thing now in a lot of city hotels is to have an hip bar/lounge/nightclub that cators not just to guests but to non-guests as well. So while you or I might just want a quiet beer to unwind from work, you also get the shady nightclub crowd.
Yeah, I guess in retrospect, maybe the tone and style of my OP did sound a little douchey. In all fairness I was sort of hyped up from the incident and I had been drinking.
Did mom’s advice ever work with playground bullies?
Actually that is what I attempted to do. And perhaps if it were earlier in the evening I would have been sharp-witted enough to somehow difuse the situation. Or as a guest of the hotel, report him to the staff and have him removed. It’s easy to come up with options after the fact.
The problem is it’s hard to ignore someone while constantly having to keep an eye out that they don’t sucker punch you or have another friend around the corner. In this particular case, once he entered my space in a hostile manner, I felt it necessary to react.
Like a reflexive “get away from my wife!” push or like “THIS!! IS!! ALLSTON!!!” and kicked him 300 style?
I always hated it when some jerk starts hassling one of the girls in our group. Normally, simply having a guy around is enough of a deterrance. But occassionally you get some drunk fool who is looking for trouble. Then it’s like do you step in? Do you “let her handle it”? Do you let the guy start a fight with you (which he often will)?
This, exactly. I have no problem with defending yourself, standing up to a shit-talking punk, or defending the honor of someone else, but this OP just reeks of self-aggrandizing attention-seeking hyperbole. Not only did he shove the guy, but he singlehandedly shoved him “across the room” with a glass of Scotch in the other hand. No, he didn’t want to hit on the girls present, they hit on him! And their fires were stoked even harder after he shoved some guy across the room. Then! After that! You know what happened? OP actually STUCK AROUND FOR A FEW MINUTES in case the douche in question wanted to start something, because he had both fists ready and was going to throwdown on this young punk. Of course, young douchebag was too scared to do anything and he backed off! But, dude, the coolness doesn’t end there. Nope, afterwards OP went to another bar where his fucking "tough guy"aura was so strong it snagged another piece of ass and…dude…get this…he FUCKING TURNED IT DOWN! And why? Because he’s in a relationship. AwWwWwWWwww. He’s strong enough to push somebody across a room with one hand, hot enough to attract gaggles of random chicks just by sitting at a bar, and he’s a sweetheart who wouldn’t even think about cheating. High FIVE! YOU DA MAN! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
I would have told the guy to get the fuck out of my face and called him an asshole. If he didn’t what would I have done? I would have walked away. Yep, just up and walked away. Call it “spineless” if you want, I don’t give a fuck. I stopped fighting to show people how tough I was when I was in junior high. Grow the fuck up, already.
Bolding mine.
I love all the swear words. Especially how they contrast with the advice to “grow the **fuck **up already”. Even managed to shoehorn one in the actual advice.
It is very zen/artsy.
Nice post. You lay out the facts of a hypothetical situation, tell me what my reaction to that situation would be, and then call my names based on that reaction (i.e., the one you made up). If I were to call you a dumbass, I bet you would ignore it and not care, which would make me think you were even more of a dumbass.
This is assuming that profanity is a sign of immaturity.
Get off my lawn you little fucking turd 
As I recall, billfish is an older gentlemen, which might have a lot to do with the “issues with swearwords” thing too.
Shut the fuck up. There are children present.
Hey dipshit, I wasn’t even talking to you. That was “you” in the general sense, not “you” personally. I only quoted your lame response so people would know what I was referring to with the “spineless” part. And, personally, I don’t give a shit if some fuckwit (talking about you now) who doesn’t even know if he’s a natural born American citizen or not thinks I’m a dumbass.
OK. And that’s a good thing for you because, as it turns out, I do indeed think you are a dumbass.
The best part about smith bragging about his “prowess with the ladies” (I think that’s the wording another poster used - I am very, very lazy) is this is the same guy who has spent roughly 25% of his posts crying about the world’s vaginas having an apparent allergy to him.
Wasn’t it you that said you had a crush on some white, middle-aged middle-manager that you would fuck until he wouldn’t be able to remember the direction the sun rose from that point forward (I may not remember that exactly right but that is admirable in my mind BTW)?
It takes all types to makes this world and lots of young women are dum with a capital 'M". If you are a reasonably attractive male with means, there are always groupies out there although most of the male posters here are way too poor to know that for themselves. It is a weird dynamic. As a man, you spend your earlier years being rejected by attractive women of all types and then the power shifts as your money grows, your looks become distinguished rather than fading into the sunset, and you gain power. You can have anyone you want at that point but most of us aren’t pervs and do have taste. Unfortunately, many politicians and sports stars aren’t as mature as the rest of us. The OP did the right thing on all counts.
Yah, it is crazy how a dude’s relationships with women evolve as they move out of their twenties and into a more successful thirties.
I’m sorry to find out the OP feels ‘too old’ for this. I am the same age, rowr! Grrrr, I don’t feel old at all. Rrrrrrzzzzt! I have been applying increased yoga to treat my anguish over the oil spill… RaWr!! What the?!? Just this afternoon I was doing handstands. Fucking handstands! Bowwowowow grrrrr I don’t want to fight at all though, not with random individuals anyway yaRRrrrR!
ETA I am shocked (shocked!) to learn of **Rand Rover’**s floraphilia :dubious:
Oh yes, that was me. So what’s your point now? That middle aged whiteness is not, by definition, shaggable? Racist! Ageist!
Oh, I think I get it now. Women will find these otherwise undesirable men suddenly desireable because they have “means”? Misogynist!
All right, if you’d like me to be serious for 30 seconds, and this is the kind of thing I like to avoid, here goes. I’m going to ignore a lot of your post because it has little to do with what I was getting at, but simply, yes, there are people on the planet who will like you because of your “means.” There are also a lot of people who don’t give two shits about your “means,” and will like you simply because you are charming. It is not secret that charisma can get a long way with a lot of people, regardless of your or their gender, age, “means” or physical attractiveness.
But back to the OP now. Yeah, I don’t deal with d-bags either. Fuck, I think my flaw is I don’t deal with d-bags well enough. I should learn some patience, primarily due to the fact that I exist in this little thing called “society” that is filled to the brim with insufferable d-baggery. I once smashed a tumbler of bourbon into a guy’s face because he grabbed my ass and refused to apologize. My only regret is I didn’t drink the bourbon before hurling the tumbler into his eye.
No, I’m not a violent person, and can easily count the amount of times I have physically hit people in my entire life, all of which save two incidents occurred before I was 13 years old. Sometimes I grin when douchebags get hit, whether or not I would have hit them if I were in that situation (and it’s almost always not what I would have done). I think what’s chuckle-worthy here, for me and some others, was the “And so I totally James Bonded the shit out of everyone” retelling of the events. “Whilst knee-deep in pussy, I roundhouse kicked some mofos, then drank their martinis.”
Rand, at one time or another you’ve called pretty much everyone on this board a dumbass. It kind of loses its power over time.
In far too many cases, Asshole would have followed you and continued to try to get you to fight. Perhaps to the point of starting it himself. Far better to establish yourself as someone not to be messed with from the beginning.
:rolleyes:
It is not “spineless” to protect ones self, nor to insist that at least a small amount of respect be displayed. If the OP is to be believed at all (and I think he can be, since so many 20-somethings are merely bags of raging hormones these days), Asshole was spoiling for a fight simply because the OP was in “his” bar, near “his” wimmenfolk. Or skanks he wanted to bed anyway… The more people like you allow Asshole to act anyway he likes, the worse he gets.
That line made my day. Thank you for clarifying who Mac was 