I can't help but think about her... (abortion)

I think I just need to vent this…

Six or eight months ago, the girl in this thread was at a party. Alcohol was involved. Long story short, she had an abortion. The father didn’t want to take responsibility and to this day denies anything happened. Her boyfriend just found out this weekend that she had even had an abortion.

I’m the one who sits up late at night and wonders. I’m the one who was calling the baby ‘her’ and ‘she’ before I even knew that she was. I’m the one who feels like he should have let her spend nine months on his couch and then raised the little girl up right, even though I know I couldn’t possibly.

And then today when you told me that you weren’t pregnant this week after all, when I was supposed to be relieved that you didn’t have to go through that again… all I could do was think about that little girl.

I’ll defend to the death your right to do that, because it would have been unfair to her to bring her into the world in that environment - conceived in a drunken stupor, no biological father, just an abusive stepdad, to an 18-year-old girl.

But dammit, I need to stop having these moments where I feel like Martin Candle meeting Jolene.

Thank you, that is all.

I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you this, but this girl is bad news. You really, really, really need to cut her off.

Dude, cut this chick loose. For your own sanity!

I know it’s easy to say this when you aren’t involved, but please, get away from her.

From your posts in both threads she seems like poison to you. Maybe she has a really nice side, and you see things in her that others don’t, but honestly, you see the not-so-nice side too often and it’s bad for you.

Leave now. Don’t look back.

{{{{ encouraging hugs }}}}

with all due respect:

Ace309 = doormat

seems like you care about her well being more than you care about yours.
She is only 18. her horror stories are only bound to gat worse.

cut it off clean.

If you want to keep up your association with her, it’s time to stop being the listening, always-there-to-cry-on, understanding doormat type. It’s time to start insisting she grow up. She needs a good kick in the ass, not an enabler.

I think you ought to go talk to someone at your school about the feelings you have about the aborted fetus. You need to talk about those feelings so they don’t plague you forever. I suspect the counselor you talk to might also have some ideas for you about how to get your relationship with this girl on healthy ground. I think she needs to straighten herself out. Perhaps you can help in this process. But if it doesn’t work, then I think you need to cut it off as others have said. This is a fantastic time in your life and it’s not fair to yourself to let yourself be infected with someone else’s poisons.

Ace, after 5 years I just broke off my friendship with a girl who always had problems. I felt rotten, like I was kicking her when she was down, but after 5 years I’ve learned that she is her own worse enemy, and she’s never going to stop getting in trouble. While we had some excellent fun between times, she wasn’t worth the sleepless nights and headaches.

It’s taken me a long time to reach this point, but she’s never going to change, and she’s taken to repeating the same mistakes over. It was wearing me down putting up with her crap. No matter what I said or did, I couldn’t make the slightest influence in her life, yet I was the one expected to pick up the pieces when her world came crashing down - I don’t mind doing this for a friend, but when said friend constantly ignores everyone, lives recklessly and then crashes and burns, it gets to you. I felt helpless, weak and frustrated. Apparently, I was good enough to console her and help her out, but not good enough to advise her. She had unrealistic expectations of my commitment to her - she was hinting around once for me to say that I would put her above my fiance, but I’m afraid my fiance is the person I’m sharing my life with and comes before all others. My friends have a high priority, but no one else who would expect me to consider them before considering my future husband.

I’m no control freak, I accept she chooses her own destiny, but if she’s going to make me so much a part of everything she does, she can at least listen to me when I say “That’s a really bad idea and it will end badly for these reasons”. She pays no attention! She asks my advice, and then tries to talk me out of my opinion. Afterwards, she says “I’m too close to the situation to see it clearly” - that’s an excuse for choosing to be reckless instead of cautious. I’m the first person she runs to when things are bad, but I don’t get to share the good times that she mortgages her future for. I get the misery without the fun.

I may seem heartless, but I’m not. My door is always open, and if my friends need someone to talk to, I try to be there for them. Yet this girl abused that. She took it to an extreme. She spent 5 years constantly in trouble of her own making. I’ve done everything I could to help her, yet she won’t help herself. She makes her own bad luck by being reckless, vain, rude and selfish, and then expects me to drop everything for her. I’m just so fresh out of sympathy. When it came down to the last straw, I couldn’t handle it anymore and I walked away.

The last straw? A friend who’d betrayed her years ago came back into her life, telling her he was sorry and he’d never do it again. She welcomed him with open arms, despite knowing that he was telling other people that he was going to win her back and then cast her aside again because it would be even funnier the second time. It’s so very obvious how that is going to end, and I can’t face going through the whole process over again. Especially following within the month of her engagement breaking up, throwing in her job to move back to her hometown, leaving everything she owned in the care of her fiance who dumped it in another state, finding she hated her hometown because she knows no one there except an exboyfriend who is now married unhappily with a small child (we all know what’s going to happen there…) In every case, she was warned about what would happen, but she chose to have fun and ignore us until she needed sympathy.

I know thinking of the baby disturbs you, Ace, but you need to let it go. Down that path, madness lies. There’s nothing that can be done or could be done to change things. This is not your fault, and it’s not something you can dwell on. You might want to consider talking to someone you can trust about the baby, and finding a way to let her go, because you can’t bring her back. Look to the future, look forward to the time when you can bring your own little ones into the world in a safe and loving enviroment, and don’t grieve too much for the baby who wasn’t born. Meanwhile, take stock. Is this girl ever going to stop making her own bad luck, and if not, are you strong enough to handle watching this cycle repeat for years and years to come? Perhaps you need to take a step back away from this girl and find someone who is in control of their own life, because if you’re waiting for her to grow up, it might take a while. I spent 5 years waiting for my friend to grow up, and at age 22 she exactly the same as she was at 17. She likes to put on airs and graces and think that she’s so much more sophisticated, but she doing the same stupid things over again, and when it’s pointed out to her that it always ends badly, she replies “It won’t happen like that this time”. How can you fight an attitude like that?

Ace-
One thing I am wondering about is how you/Amy knew the baby was a girl? Sex of the baby is generally not able to be determined until at lest a good ways into the 2nd trimester,I think. Even if she had a late abortion, a clinic
would not have revealed to her the sex of the baby, if indeed they even noticed. I have the impression that they set their ultrasound machines up to measure size only, and sort of fuzz out other details.
Did her doctor tell her? Or is she just guessing?
Something sounds kinda fishy about this.

scredle,
I totally agree. I had thought he said he was assuming until I read : I’m the one who was calling the baby ‘her’ and ‘she’ before I even knew that** she was**. (bolding mine)

Ace, have you ever considered that she may be an attention seeking person? That all these little traggedies of hers will ensure your staying there by her side?

or, this may be harsh: are you enabling her because it casts you in the roll of The Sainted Friend? Do you get off on pity? Is this how YOU want to be perceived by others? “oh, that Ace is such a good friend. He is always putting up with her crap. he is ALWAYS there”. Let me tell you, if this is why…and it may be unknowingly…it’s probably more like “:rolleyes: there goes Ace going on and on about her again”

I think by enabling, as cranky mentioned, you not only are hurting yourself, but you are in a manner of speaking, making her behavior acceptable and she will continue on and on. If you are a genuine friend, you may have to remember that love (be it as a friend or to a child, etc) means having to say NO sometimes.

Tough Love. Learn this concept.
or else somewhere down the line, you will realize HOW much time you have wasted on her. I knew a girl just like that and she never changed either. Despite your best intentions, one day you will become sooooo fed up, you too will turn away. trust me. So do it now and end this on a somewhat friendly note.