None of that is of any public or League relevance, and I say they’re “innocuous” because the voice messages do not contain anything sexual explicit, harrassing or threatening, just an invitation to see him at his hotel.
If there’s “more” to anything than anything can get ugly. That’s just a tautology. The fact remains that there does not appear to be more.
No theory is necessary. You’re the one with the burden of proof. Prove it’s Favre’s cock.
I think Deadspin probably really bought the pics from someone, but even THEY say the pics might not be Favre. Favre denies it. Sterger has said nothing about them. Nothing is going to happen.
It’s a civil matter. Under no circumstances would it be a crime. It’s an offense or a tort, not a crime. Favre could be sued, he can’t be prosecuted. These are very important distinctions.
In the case of Sexual Harassment there must be a complaint for it to be a violation. The primary facet of the allegation is that the attention was unwelcome. If it’s not unwelcome it’s not a violation. This is outlined by the U.S. EEOC.
As Sterger has not filed any complaint nor said that the advances were not welcome there simply is no unlawful act, period. That she saved the photos to laugh about them with friends implies to me that while the advances were not reciprocated they also were not unwelcome. These distinctions are crucial.
Something already happened. You’re the only one concerned about whether he’s going to get disciplined.
Look, I’m not trying to pull rank or anything, but I’m familiar with the distinction between a crime and a tort, and you’re mistaken. Harassment’s a crime, as is intentional exposure of your joint to unwilling audiences.
No crime has even been alleged.
This is a complete load of crap. Favre has been assumed guilty from the beginning. Lok at this thread. You’re accusing him of a “crime,” without the slightest basis to do so, just because he’s Brett Favre.
What victim? Victim of what? Prove that there’s a victim.
I don’t think teher’s a campaign to destroy Favre, but I do that that people are rooting for something to happen to Favre just because they’re still butthurt that he left Green Bay.
Prove he sent her pictures of his cock. She hasn’t accused him of that or of anything else. Your spin that she’s “afraid” is just sour grapes bullshit. If you’re going to accuse him of a crime, back it up.
The report is that Sterger never gave Favre her phone number, that Favre got it from some Jets employee. And Sterger has not categorically said she won’t talk to the NFL, yet. So this drama has yet to completely play out. However, in the end I think there won’t be enough evidence of anything to discipline Favre.
BTW, I think it is more likely the Jets get disciplined by the league than Favre.
Cite? Show us the statute.
This is a desperate reach on your part. No one has accused Favre of doing this.
What report?
I guess it doesn’t matter. Favre has admitted to the innocuous voice mails. Nothing wrong with those. It’s not illegal to hit on hot chicks. So far, it looks like that’s all that happened, though. He’s denying the dick pics are his, and there’s no way to prove he did send them.
You are literally delusional.
Fuck your standard of proof. Prove it to who? You? I’m not prosecuting the man. I’m “alleging” on a message board, not as an agent of the state. And I repeat: I don’t give a shit about Brett Favre. Sterger said she received voicemails and pictures of Brett Favre’s cock from Brett Favre. Even Favre admits he left the voicemails. Why are we even talking about this aspect of it? There’s nothing to argue about.
This is an online message board not a court of law. We’re allowed to form conclusions based on the preponderance of evidence. And the evidence is that what appears to have happened - Brett Favre sent Jenn Sterger unsolicited pictures of his penis - is what actually happened.
And I’m no Brett Favre hater. I’m from Buffalo so I’m a Tom Brady hater.
New York Penal Code §240.25 and 26. You’re welcome.
This is a message board where you’re expected to be able to back up your assertions. If you can’t back them up, don’t make them.
No she didn’t,. Sterger has said nothing at all.
The voicemails are completely innocuous, so who gives a shit?
I’m just asking you to back up your assertions. If you can’t back them up, don’t make them.
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This is an online message board not a court of law. We’re allowed to form conclusions based on the preponderance of evidence. And the evidence is that what appears to have happened - Brett Favre sent Jenn Sterger unsolicited pictures of his penis - is what actually happened.[/quote
What evidence?
Care to illuminate me here? In what way is Sexual Harassment a CRIMINAL offense? Has there been a sexting case which resulted in a criminal conviction? Criminal prosecution even?
This whole thing is about a married guy who clumsily tried to get some poon. The only people alleging criminal activity are people talking out their ass in this thread and I think it’s important to set that record straight. Hate on Favre if you want for being a dork and a lech, hate on Sterger for being a idiot for showing the photos to a reporter. But lets not go accusing people of crimes they didn’t commit or don’t exist.
Where’d the story come from in the first place, Diogenes? Why does anybody know that this happened?
When’d you get your law degree, Omni?
Phone records?
Nope.
http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/PEN0240.26_240.25.html
http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/PEN0240.26_240.25.html
Swing and a miss on both counts. No sexual harassment referenced here, and nothing Deadspin accuses Favre of meets any of the criteria for criminal harassment.
Did you even bother to read these statutes, or did you just see the word. “harassment” and think you had a gotcha.
The NFL has no power to subpoena phone records.