Been a while since I’ve seen it, but wasn’t Zombieland a parody of zombie movies? It’s like watching “Airplane!” and complaining about all the FAA violations.
Not particularly, no.
I didn’t see The Social Network–mainly because of Eisenberg. I’m willing to give him another chance though since he’s in the new movie about David Foster Wallace.
I’m all for diversity, but this feels like an odd movie to complain about the lack of diversity in. There are a total of four characters who aren’t zombies (plus Bill Murray). Four! Given that the United States is 72% white (and might well be higher for the trip across the plains the majority of the movie takes place in) I don’t think it’s unrealistic at all.
I do agree that Jesse Eisenberg is miscast here, but I think the movie is good enough everywhere else that is succeeds despite that.
Wait a minute, you **fast forwarded ** through most of the movie? Then how can you honestly criticize it? Geez, I’ve sat in theaters, watching films I wasn’t enjoying, but I stuck it out. That way I could honestly give my opinion on the entire film.
I can understand not liking a particular genre or actor, etc… and disliking something ahead of time because of that. But IMO you lack credibility in criticizing something if you’re not going to bother to watch the while thing.
Agreed that it shouldn’t be the default in every case, but you seem to be arguing that it shouldn’t be the default in any case. I think this particular movie has a reasonable case for being all white.
With only six characters (don’t forget hot neighbor girl at the beginning) in the whole movie, all meeting on the road from Austin to Columbus, it’s not unreasonable to have six white actors. Especially since five of them are big stars and the sixth appeared to be up and coming at the time. (Amber Heard’s career remains stuck in the B list.) As opposed to background bit players, where it’s much easier to diversify and thus more jarring when the extras are all white.
I agree with you that Hollywood needs more diversity, preferably without having every movie be either all white or all black or all latino or all asian, but I think this particular criticism of Zombieland is misplaced.
I saw this in the movies and was shocked how much I loved it. Not sure how it aged but at the time I was telling anyone who would listen to go see it.
But, why? Then it wouldn’t be Spider-man.
I’m all for seeing something new and original and could gave a damn if the actor is white, black, etc… but why the hell would I want to see a character who’s been around for 50 years as a white guy, something else?
Do I want to see more diversity in characters, sure, but give me NEW characters. What do you gain by seeing an Asian man (like you said) as Spider-man? Nothing really. Hell, the character is completely masked when in action anyway.
Why do you want retreads?
Not me. An Asion man as a superhero, a black woman as a super hero, an Indian man or woman as a superhero sure. BUT MAKE IT A NEW CHARACTER. I think it comes across more like pandering when you take a fictional character who’s been around for decades and changing it’s sex or race or religion instead of taking the time and being creative and creating something entirely new.
Well, Anaamika specified survivors. But there was a couple other survivors shown during the Zombie Kill of the Week who were also white. So… seven people, I think? I don’t remember if the ZKotW bit had just the little old lady or someone else as well.
Weren’t those all in Austin?
For all of you focusing solely on my complaint about the white characters, fair enough, but I did make five points in my OP! Frankly I think I have explained myself pretty well on the white/nonwhite angle, so I am not going to rehash it over and over again. It’s one of my complaints, not the sole one. Is it just the one that bothers people most? Personally I thought Woody Harrelson practically fellating Bill Murray was pretty annoying, too, especially since I like both actors pretty well.
Valid criticism. I swear, I tried. But there was a lot of dreck.
Around the time the hot neighbor chick came in and started laying all over Jesse just because is where I got a little :rolleyes:. From then on I fast forwarded just fast enough to be able to see the subtitles, so I still caught most of the movie, just on 2x fast. I never skipped any parts completely, and sometimes I still slowed it down to regular speed (mostly when Harrelson was doing his antics). I did in fact watch the whole movie, but I saw no reason to watch it on normal speed.
Richard John Marcej, another valid point. Sure, I would like a new character, but they are rebooting Spiderman again. With some nobody teenie bopper. I happen to think that a young Asian man would fit the role of Peter Parker ideally - kind of out of the loop, doesn’t really fit in anywhere, loyal to family, kind of poor. But sure, I’ll take new characters. It just doesn’t seem like Hollywood is that crazy about making new stuff!
I actually think Eisenberg is a fair decent straight man actor. And he was really good in that role in Zombieland (as well as Adventureland before that… no relation to Zombieland even though it sounds like it; and in The Social Network, where his performance was nominated for every Best Actor Nomination under the sun). I guess I just don’t get the hate.
Well, different people like different things. I couldn’t stand him. 
Why not? Seriously, why not. When I think about Spider-Man I think of a nerdy kid who gets bitten by a radioactive spider. I’ve never thought of Spider-Man as a nerdy [white] kid who gets bit by a radioactive spider.
Is this how normal people think? Inserting race into everything?
I’d kinda enjoy a black Super Man. We could have him play off Ellison’s invisible man theory and see if he even needed the glasses when he was dressed as Clark Kent.
Spiderman, I believe, is contractually obligated to always be Caucasian. Or so I saw on the Internet, and we know we can always trust the Internet.
But yes, you make my point for me. “Nerdy kid who gets bit by a radioactive spider” is all I think about too.
But I really just answered to say how much I love! your username. I love penguins. Disgruntled ones are even better.
Looking into it, there was just the one listed: Sister Cynthia Knickerbocker. No city or state given although Tallahassee presumably knew of her existence when he mutters “Six people left in the world and one of them is Bill fuckin’ Murry”.
Spider-Man doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Even setting aside the cinematic versions from the past 15 years or so, I assume most people think of him (assuming they do at all) based on decades of comics and newspaper comics depicting him as white. I understand that there’s some Revamped Ultimate Split Dimension What-If Alternate Universe Foil Edition version where he’s some other race but most people don’t know or care about that.
Thinking about Peter Parker (or Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent) as white doesn’t indicate some sort of weird race obsession.
[QUOTE=Stan Lee, creator of Spider-Man]
I wouldn’t mind, if Peter Parker had originally been black, a Latino, an Indian or anything else, that he stay that way, but we originally made him white. I don’t see any reason to change that.
[/QUOTE]
Agreed. There was bitching about a rumor that Spiderman was going to be black for something, there was bitching about a rumor that Thor was going to be black in the Marvel movies. It’d be funny if it weren’t so sad.
It’s been so long since I’ve seen Zombieland, I can’t remember if I liked it or not. I do know that my roommate made me watch it after watching a different zombie film that involved nailing someone’s foot to the floor and performing aversion therapy on a gay dude so when I think of Zombieland, I mostly just remember feeling relieved it wasn’t being as graphic or emotionally upsetting.
There was bitching that the little girl named Rue in The Hunger Games, who clearly was listed as having dark skin, was black! And she was cast perfectly, IMO.
Stan Lee, I know this is totally blasphemy, but I don’t care that much about Stan Lee. Oh, I know, he’s the Father of everything, but that’s kind of insulting to all of the hundreds of thousands of people who have given us great stories in the universe.