I don’t think we should be getting cues on what is creepy from Youtube comments, just saying.
I have a Chamilia that I wear constantly and get a LOT of compliments on. But its a flex bangle I have about four charms on - it isn’t the overpowering collection you see on a lot of women and the flex bangle isn’t something the much more popular Pandora sells.
However, I have to agree with Spoiler Virgin. I ask for very few things for gifts - and the reason I ask for very few things for gifts is because frankly, I’m not going to like 99% of the crap people pick out for me - even my husband took almost two decades to start getting it right - my own MOTHER will miss sometimes. I don’t want people spending their hard earned money in something that will go straight into the Goodwill bin - but that’s better than me taking up closet space for a sweater I don’t even LIKE. One thing I ask for is charms for the bracelet (that I seldom change out). They are small, fit in a tin in my lingerie drawer, and allow me to customize the piece of jewelry I wear all the time. The other thing I ask for is fairly specific Christmas ornaments - silver or blown glass (not the Radko shaped stuff, the simple transparent bulbs of colored glass). Again, they take up almost no space and let me decorate my tree, which is something I like. I don’t understand why anyone who cares about me enough to get me a gift would not get me what I wanted - chances are really good you’ll disappoint me in your effort to override my aesthetic.
ETA: After almost 20 years, my husband started getting it right. But I sent him to my personal shopper at Nordstrom for help
Mine. At fourteen and a half, some of her favorites still involve “matching mom.” We get matching jammies every year for Christmas. Swap scarves and some jewelry around freely (not all jewelry - some of mine is too expensive for her and has sentimental value). Its either a compliment to my taste (but what do I know, I wear one of those beaded charm bracelets) or her geekiness that she thinks her mom’s style is cool.
She wears more makeup than I do though.
It probably helps that pretty much nothing she could wear would make me scream. There are some “honey, I think you’d regret cutting off all your hair” conversations, but if she stuck with a desire for a purple mohawk for a few months, I’d take her to get it done. (I took her to get her ends dyed purple).
That makes it even more creepy, IMHO. I can see buying a little girl something from Claire’s for $9.99. Something cheap and silly without any symbolism. But something expensive and presented as “special”? Yeah, I can totally understand why that would be creepy.
In mainstream US culture, it’s not common for heterosexual men to buy jewelry for women outside of a romantic relationship. Getting a ring or a necklace from a man generally communicates something more than “I like you!” So if you’re gonna give a non-sexual partner jewelry, it definitely makes sense not to pick out the exact same piece that you give the woman you’re wooing. You, as a man, may not see the symbolism. But you don’t get to dictate how someone else feels about it.
Crass commercialism banking on schmaltzy sentiment. thumbsdown smilie and fugly piece of crap jewelry. Otherwise I dont think its particularly creepy. Mom is eyeballing the sit carefully.
I dont think jewelry = relationship really. My gay friend gave me a necklace and Im pretty sure he doesnt have THAT kind of feelings for me.
I’ve never said no one should find the commercial non-creepy. I just think it’s rather revealing of the person’s mindset.
A mindset that doesn’t pretend jewelry symbolizes nothing more than “ooh, shiny!”?
A mindset that has experienced being romantically wooed with jewelry?
What mindset?
Yours apparently. He’s marrying her mom and letting her know that he loves her too. It’s nothing more than that.
The mindset that has jewelry inextricably linked with sex and that for some reason thinks it’s atrocious that giving a mom and a daughter the same sort of jewelry says anything more than “I’m rather unoriginal at gift-giving.”
If a commercial creeps people out, then the commercial fails. Obviously there is “more” to the ad if “That’s creepy!” is the thought they are left with. As I said before, you don’t get to decide people are wrong just because you don’t feel the same way they do.
Your receiver is tuned one way and others are tuned another. Why in the hell is this a problem?
I don’t deny that people may find the commercial creepy. If you think it’s creepy then I understand and respect that you think it’s creepy. That doesn’t make it creepy in some objective sense and just as you are free to find it creepy, so too are we free to find it not creepy. Why the hell is that a problem?
No one has said there’s anything “revealing” abour the mindset that doesn’t see creepiness in the commercial. So I’m not understanding where your defensiveness is coming from.
I personally don’t like my mindset being questioned, as if one must be a paranoid prude to wonder about the wisdom of that ad. This explains my defensiveness.
Not if it’s unreasonable for a normal person to be creeped out by it. I understand that you find the commercial weird, but I honestly believe that you are in a tiny minority. The mindset you talk about isn’t widespread.
I appreciate that you feel that way, and I can understand the logic that leads to it even if I disagree with that logic, but the product appears to be wildly successful so they’re appealing to the right audience.
Not to be blunt, but tough beans. If you are seeing something that others aren’t then you can expect some criticism. You are questioning my mindset that says things are perfectly normal in that commercial but I’m not taking it personally. We simply disagree.
Really? This thread has had 39 contributors, 10 this far, have mentioned the comercial seems creepy. Thats 25%. Not really tiny.
No, I am not. And neither has anyone else in this thread.
An internet thread is not sufficiently rigorous to draw any conclusions from.
And when it comes to jewelry at all, and jewelry from places like Kay in particular (is this one Kay?), we are not, on average, the target audience for the ad. This is the group of people who claim to throw up a little in their mouths when presented with the idea of a traditional engagement ring (men and women) because who would want such materialistic nonsense. And yet, the engagement ring business continues to flourish.
What does it cost to make a bead bracelet? maybe $5.00? Looks like a big profit maker for Pandora
I think Pandora bracelets themselves are neutral. Each one’s individual appearance depends on the choices the wearer has made - what beads do i want? Will they have a cohesive theme? And so on. The problem is that most people aren’t naturally skilled at design, so most Pandora bracelets look like an ugly mishmash of random beads.
A decent comparison, IMO, is way back in the mists of Internet time : MySpace. Pages had set objects like background, profile table, posts table, header, main text, etc. and people could easily change these to whatever colors or images they wanted.
It was totally possible to customize your page and have it look great, be easily readable/legible, etc. The problem was that for each decent-to-great page, there were about 10,000 that were absolutely hideous and unreadable: super high contrast background images, text about 2 pixels high, text that was neon yellow, tables that overlapped, autoplaying music, etc.
And so it is with Pandora.
Are Alex and Ani bracelets better?