Is this directed at me? I wish that the good posters of this board would stop feeling as though they have throw out every single redonkulous “what if” situation when presented with a suggestion that not every situation is as it appears. What if a monkey is on fire and headed right for a kid who is teetering out a fifth story window outside of which there are jagged rocks?! Ooops, better mind my own business. Right? Could be a very good reason for a flaming monkey to knock a toddler out a window.
I’d say all that yelling and swearing is worse for the toddler than your removing an open bottle of hot sauce from her clutches.
Well, it was directed more at Frylock for that whole, “I can’t believe someone disciplined my child–oh, I forgot to mention [insert relevant info].” Or at any person who neglects to put in pertinent info and then goes all, “Gotcha!”
I didn’t think your story was all that bad because really is it anyone else’s business if someone’s kid is eating ice cream? Tantrum or not?
I don’t see the debate, myself. Your kid was jumping on chairs in public. You are, therefore, a bad parent. Full stop; there is no possible defense.
Now, I suppose people could make silly quibbles about how bad a parent you are; is your kid doomed to grow up to be Hitler, or merely Wilt Chamberlain? But this is the Snuggley Kitten Forum so I don’t see any need to pussy-foot (heh) around the issue; you’re a terrible, terrible, parent. I’m sorry, but you just are.
That said, the dude who grabbed and yelled at your kid is an ass.
Just for the record, above I did offer several scenarios, many of which would validate a claim that it was reasonable on a particular occasion to let a kid jump on a couch in a waiting room.
Frylock is clearly a terrible parent and I’m clearly a great one despite the fact that I have not yet sired an offspring. I am in the perfect position to judge his parenting skills based on his brief and incomplete description of a single incident.
Frylock, I think you showed remarkable restraint if the fragment of the story you posted is true.
NOBODY grabs my child by the arm in that situation and gets away with it. I can’t believe you actually allowed that to happen. I would have broken that guy’s fucking face for grabbing my kid.
Even if my child was being annoying by bouncing on a waiting room couch, it in NO WAY gives someone else the right to touch my kid to admonish them.
Of course, I would have corrected that behavior on the part of my child before it ever got to that, but since we are missing that part of the story…I’ll fall on your side and say that guy was WAY out of bounds.
Would you stop goddamned attention-whoring about it? "Hey everyone, look at me! Let me bait you all with a story of my own bad parenting–no wait, you don’t have the details, don’t yell at me!! Oh, what about those details? Nope, not gonna give them. I don’t talk about parenting online. "
Shit or get off the pot buddy; have at it with the details or just drop the fucking topic and stop responding to people. Why would you bring up your own personal story about parenting if you have a stated policy against doing such a thing. What the hell is the point of all the runaround, other than so you can be a worthless attention whore?
But why didn’t you put all the information there? Without it, your kid does come off looking bratty. The guy was out of line to grab him like that, but if he had done something like tell the kid, “Please stop jumping, it’s rude,” I wouldn’t have thought he was so out of line.
I’ve covered this, and I’m trying to keep these posts brief now, so I’ll just refer you back to the thread.
Indeed, I wouldn’t have probably thought much of it if the guy had addressed my kid. Best to address me, but addressing the kid can be okay. Grabbing and yelling, that’s a no-no.
Pull your head out of your ass and get your story straight. Or do your “principles” cause you to leave steaming pantloads of contradictory horseshit all over a thread?
It looks like you’re assuming it’s impossible for it to be reasonable for one person to allow another person to do something that other person shouldn’t in fact be doing. (That’s the only way I can figure you’re thinking you see a contradiction in what you quoted.) But now that I’ve formulated that assumption fairly starkly, can you take a look at it and come up with counterexamples on your own, or do you need my help? (Hint: I’ve already provided a few upthread.)
A bit more subtly, it looks like you’re also assuming that the presence of a polite request on the conversational table can’t change certain actions from being “nothing wrong” to “something wrong.” That’d be a false assumption, as well.