I just got picked up on the subway

Speaking as someone who’s done U.S. work visas for the past 7+ years, and done stints in various other branches of the immigration arena, I can’t think of a lawful immigration status in which a person would be working legally, but have to leave every 3 months. This is definitely tripping my radar.

you must have good karma :wink:

Tibetans generally are among the nicest, friendliest people I’ve ever met. I think the women are gorgeous. I spent many months backpacking around Deqin, Aba and Garze regions of Kham. so ask if her family is from Kham or if she is a Khampa. Ask where her family is from, has she been to tibet, where has she lived in Nepal and India. Is she a Tibetan Buddhist? Any family members that are monks or nuns? Does she like yak butter tea? Will she make you some first time you’re at her place? Can she ride a horse? Does she have a rosary or tibetan jewelry?

Okay, from your brief description, she sounds Tibetan but probably born in Nepal or India and not in Tibet. Likely her family fled Tibet sometime after 1950 and ended up in a Tibetan refugee camp. Probably through some convoluted story ended up in Canada and now working in the US. You could ask what year and the story behind her family leaving Tibet.

GDP of Tibet would really surprise me if it’s over $1000/year. It is a wonderful place but one might not romaticize it if you actually have to live there.

I was thinking about this and I bet that now that she is in the big city most people have just ignored her or else men have slimely tried to pick up on her. You were the first one to be nice and genuine to her.

In what way? I’m very ignorant about immigration status–why would she have to visit Canada every three months? To renew some sort of visa, probably, but what sort requires this type of leaving and returning? A tourist visa?

And, yes, China Guy, she does seem extremely affable in addition to being some kind of gorgeous. Probably if she were less drop-dead good-looking, I might be less suspicious than I am. But so far, she’s really not looking for anything from me that I can see, just seems to be interested in spending a little time with me, which I’ve got plenty of. I might as well spend a little of my spare time exploring this a little further–it’s the kind of thing where I need to do it if only to not be kicking my own ass for being shy or unadventrous if I didn’t. Thanks for all the info about Tibet. I’ll ask her about Kham–is that like a province or a region of Tibet? I should bone up on Tibet, I guess. I know nothing about it, at all. Other than looking it up on-line, is there a book about Tibetan culture you know of? What does Tibetan jewelry look like? She wears these long dangling earrings that I see on a lot of NYC women, but no bracelets or rings or necklaces. Yak butter tea? I’ll have to ask about that.

It’s hard to believe that no one has treated her well in the U.S. hajario, but maybe I got lucky. Or have good karma.

It could be a tourist visa or a work visa. It’s standard for them to be renewable every three months, for up to a year.

IIRC, it is a requirement of Canadian citizenship that in order to remain a citizen you can spend no more than 3 consecutive months out of the country except under work-related circumstances (if you are employed by a Canadian company) and possibly with some sort of written permission excepting for special circumstances (extra-long vacation or sabbatical or somesuch).

Going by memory here though and it’s too early in the morning (and I’m too lazy) to find a cite. :slight_smile:

Are you sure she’s in her 20s? A lot of people not familiar with persons from Asia tend to underestimate age, especially when they see Asian women with western guys.

Shibb, who is married to an Asian woman who is only about 1.5 years younger, but whose age is/was often guessed much younger.

That was the only thing she was reluctant to discuss. She mentioned that someone had asked her about her age, and I said, over lunch yesterday, “And how old are you, if you don’t mind my asking?” and she just smiled and said “Why does everyone want to know my age?” and I said “It’s a pretty rude question–I was just wondering,” and we moved on.

Truth to tell, though, it’s a pretty important one. I’m not really concerned that she’s a whole lot older than her 20s, and if she were 30 or more she’d still be by far the greatest age-difference in all my relationships, but how about if she’s a lot younger than she seems? “Your Honor, I had no idea she was 15” is not a speech I see myself making.

Larry Mudd, what happens after the year is up? I’m feeling a sudden sense of urgency here.

I find this surprising; it would mean I couldn’t go on a four-month holiday! (I wish… :slight_smile: )

According to Citizenship and Immigrationm Canada, permanent residents of Canada must remain in Canada for two years out of every five. Citizens may enter and leave “freely”.

Perhaps this is a residency requirement of the US?

I<m glad to hear that things went opkay so far. :slight_smile:

I’d still feel rather uneasy about the whole thing, until finding out her age and immigration status. In my experience, attractive young foreign women do not pick up random middle-aged men on the subway without ulterior motives. But your experience may differ. I hope.

The health card is the ID used by the provincial public health-insurance plan. The link is to the Ontario card, which a resident of Toronto would probably have. Not only Canadian citizens, but many permanent residents and other people are eligible for a health card.

(Lack of public health insurance is the major reason, IMHO, why Canadians will never vote to join the US.)

In Thailand asking one’s age is not considered rude at all. Not sure about Tibet and/or China. Age is traditionally seen as a badge of honor. The older you are the more respect you automatically garner. Not that there aren’t a few more “modern” women who would not demur to advertise their age, particularly to a suitor, but my guess is that she’s older than you believe and wants to keep that to herself.

That’s my guess too. My neighbor is asian, and I always thought it was so odd that she was married to such an old guy. He looks to be in his early 80’s and I figured she was about 55. Then, a couple months ago she told my son it was her birthday. He said, “How old are you?” and she said “I’m 77 today!” :eek:

I swear to God, I almost fainted. The woman’s skin is flawless.

You and me both.

I mean, I’m probably the least likely person I know to get even this far into this situation. Given my Life-Long New Yorker status, a pretty woman could run naked and on fire through a subway car, and I’ll keep my nose buried deep in my copy of the Daily News, but all of my usual reasons (apart from my L-L NYer status) are absent this time:

Initially, this probably wouldn’t even have happened if I had remembered to bring something to read on the subway, because I never would have noticed her sneezing or had the inclination to chat up a stranger. But I had nothing to do, so we started talking.

Then there was the whole “between-girlfriends” thing that allowed me to see no harm in taking her phone number and then calling her up. Then there was the feeling of having a free Sunday and an itch for a little adventure. But I remain a rather skeptical person who’s compelling himself to learn what can go wrong here instead of acting on my usual assumption that something will go wrong and therefore I should save time and not get involved.

I very rarely date any woman much under 40, because of compatibility problems (and the whole issue of biological clocks ticking, which is a conversation I would rather never engage in again). So there are real issues here, even if this continues well. But so far this is mostly me pushing myself to follow through on something that I would normally have walked away from–worst case scenario (I think) is that I can give a nice person a little help acclimating herself to NYC, and if there’s any space for me, I can explore that carefully. But for now, I’m assuming that she probably has some agenda I’m not fully understanding, and so am proceeding cautiously. I’m fresh out of excuses that would help me avoid an adventure, I guess.

When I saw the Thread title, I couldn’t recall if pseudotriton ruber ruber was a boy or a girl.

And I got a mental image of a girl in too short skirts, a tight sweater, fishnets, & too much makeup.

Then, pseudotriton ruber ruber reminded us he is a middle-aged man, & I got a mental image of a balding chap, with a fringe of hair, glasses, & a grey suit.

And then (my mind being the trainwreck that it is) I got a mental image of a balding chap, with a fringe of hair, glasses, too short skirts, a tight sweater, fishnets, & too much makeup.

SCRUB MY BRAIN WITH BLEACH!
:eek: :eek: PLEASE!! :eek: :eek:

A tourist visa might lead her to do that sort of thing, but it wouldn’t be legal for her to work while in the U.S. on a tourist visa. After a while, as Homeland Security gets better at tracking people’s entries and exits, she may start to be scrutinized more heavily upon entry and asked exactly what she is up to that she comes to the States so much, and potentially denied entry if the officer gets the idea thjat she is working illegally and/or plans on staying indefinitely. Leaving every 3 months is definitely not a residence requirement of the U.S.

If she were here legally on a work visa of some sort, she should be able to extend it by filing an application by mail with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which would not require leaving the U.S. at all, provided she had maintained some sort of valid immigration status.

This is why I smell a rat; the pieces don’t seem to add up, unless there is some Canada-specific angle that I’m not seeing (like maybe the health insurance angle that Sunspace mentioned). But I’ve worked with a lot of Canadians over the years and heard about most of the routine Canada-specific issues, unless there are some that are specific to permanent residents of Canada that don’t apply to Canadian citizens (I’ve dealt with those, too, but not as frequently).

You want adventure, I think you’ll get it. Her life sounds a little too complicated for my tastes, but if you want some drama, I think you’re on the right track.

Oh, I was going to mention that I believe a lot of immigrants come to Canada first because it’s easier to get into than the U.S., and just sort of slide on down once they’re here. Or not. Who knows?

We are plain quiet folk and have no use for adventures.
Nasty disturbing uncomfortable things! Make you late for dinner!
I can’t think what anybody sees in them.

And you thought this pickup line would never work…!

I think I have met the girl you are talking about!

Her real name is Chuck, but when she gets dressed up, you would never guess he used to play on the Tibetan hockey team.