It wasn’t like women had any choice about that.
They weren’t even allowed to vote until 1920. Maybe entrenched institutional sexism had something to do ith it? Or do you think all women just voluntarily chose to be domestic slaves for a couple of hundred years?
You forgot the bit where they were slaves, too. Or rather, ‘permanently indentured servants.’
To quote someone in this thread, (can’t remember who) “the largest group that was not white was subjugated—first held in slavery and then held down through laws and policies that made it impossible for any one of them to have achieved such a high office”
In a way I think it’s… not quite the opposite of that, but just an extension of the assumption that (straight) white American men are the standard, the default from which everyone else strays through their skin color, gender, country of origin. They’ve not only got a rich history, they’ve got the history, and the final say, and anyone who doesn’t fit in can’t help but be colored by prejudice and therefore are unable to be objective. (Which is incredibly racist for everyone involved including white American men getting lumped together).
Cat Fight, you’ve nailed it. White male Protestant is the default norm from which all others deviate to a greater or lesser degree.
The question is not whether the U.S. was racist, its whether Buchanan’s answer was racist. Or the one I offered, from which you extracted my quote.
Do you care to answer that?
Buchanan’s answer was racist because his rationalization is that Supreme Court Justices were mostly white and not black because white’s built this country, dabgumit. In truth, whites *used *blacks to build this country. If you just gloss over that and say, well, gosh, what could we do, there just weren’t enough black people doing enough important things back then … it comes off as racist.
Wasn’t the original quote about why diversity was good, not one particular group over everyone else?
I mean, had the general opinion at the time been that white men were the best bet because people with their experiences just didn’t have much say or influence, then it’d probably be a fair comparison. Seems like a pretty disturbing comparison, in all honesty.
In his answer he acknowledged that blacks were discriminated against. The answer I gave above as to why there were all white presidents drew this out more. So, if he would have done that, as I did, would he then, in your opinion, escape the racist badge?
No, not AFAICT. The original quote was Sotomayor first mentioning that Sandra Day O’Connor said that a wise man and a wise woman would come to the same conclusion from the same facts. Sotomayor said that she (Sotomayor) did not believe that this was true - first because there was no such universal concept as “wise” and second because Latina women would be liable to do better than someone who did not have the rich experience of being a Latina.
Although it wasn’t quite “one group over everyone else”, just “Latinas are better than white men”.
Regards,
Shodan
Could you link me to the source you’re using? I’ve seen a lot of the quote itself but not much of the original context of it.
Edit; Never mind, found it myself, and yes, it’s either as you say or it’s terribly badly put.
Nope, I mean mags. He’s the one who says:
1.Hispanics are predisposed to criminality.
2.Blacks disdain education and are generally the stupider race.
3.We should establish an American culture so that when those very few immigrants who we let migrate come in here, there will be an American culture that they can adopt and shed those other, not nearly as nice, cultures. Mostly by speaking English, motherfucker.
If need be, he would allow ten thousand or so Messicans into the US to pick our lettuce and do other menial jobs, just as long as they go back when we’re through with them. That’s our mags.
Oh come on now, plenty of white indentured workers, and chinese, etc.
That’s how Pat’s people got in.
How are Earthquakes like ethnic minorities?
They both drive down property values!
OOOHHHH!!!
Originally spewed by Pat Buchanan
I think Pat has a point. I mean who can forget Thomas Jefferson pleading in vain for some black folks to step up and help write the Declaration of Independence? But nooooooo, they were too busy picking his tobacco and having his offspring.
Holy shit, I gotta watch my fucking mouth! Sometimes the cuntshitting words just pop right outta my God damed fingers and I’d be cocksucked if I notice. I will be on guard for this from now on.
He was wrong about Gettysburg and Vicksburg too. He gets a pass on Normandy because I don’t know what the percentage of black casualties were there.
I didn’t realize the most basic “fuck you” was prohibited in the Pit. Did that happen at the same time as “cunt” was prohibited, or did it come about later? Since I think it would have been far more controversial, yet I don’t remember anyone mentioning it.
Well, we can state with some confidence that all the Germans at Normandy were white.
Same time. The rule is, no sex-based insults towards other members. You can call another poster an asshole, and you can call the President a motherfucker, but you can’t call another poster a motherfucker.
And before you ask, no, the logic behind this does not, in fact, make any sense at all.