I’ve always liked Chris Christie. He’s obviously flawed, but be knows he can’t hide it.
So he’s funny. And relatable. And enjoys taking the position that he’s allowed to tell you the straight truth, even if it sucks.
(I mean, sure he’s got corruption in his lineage - but it’s old fashioned corruption. Clogging the highway to punish an opponent is kind of quaint, even).
And I sincerely would like to see him get the GOP nomination. Most pundits think he has no shot in hell, but I suspect that’s just because we are in such a Trump dominated party.
Regardless of how well he does, he’s decided to take the role of somebody who will point out the absurdity and loathsomeness of donald and his family. Just the other day I saw him give a speech where he compared Jared’s receipt of $2 billion from the Saudis to being in a banana republic. He seems especially happy to spar with donald.
So I’m rooting for Chris Christie. All the way to the nomination. And, truth be told, if he won the presidency, I’d still be able to breathe. I don’t think Chris Christie is insane. Or evil.
We’re so far past the point at which any Republican in the known universe can be mentioned in the same sentence as President that your post sadly reads like a relic from a simpler universe, one blinded to reality. “Mere old fashioned corruption!” Feels like an ice cream soda down at Pop’s Shop. Yes, please, more old fashioned corruption. I have a bag of money right here.
Oh, sure, just like a good mob boss he had nothing to do with it.
The scandal broke just after Christie won reelection as governor. And it involved triggering traffic jams on access lanes to the George Washington Bridge to punish Fort Lee’s mayor for not backing his reelection campaign.
If you think Christie had nothing to do with that, maybe someone would be willing to sell you that bridge.
Chris Christie is basically one of the last major moderate Republicans. He has no chance of winning the nomination because of this.
Modding: @Atamasama, if you cannot factually back up the criminal part, please drop it from this thread. Use terms that actually factually describe him please. I believe you can find plenty.
In my opinion, he was involved directly in crimes that his subordinates committed, because they were retaliating against someone on Christie’s behalf. It is common sense. I believe it’s naive to think otherwise.
It is no different than when Trump is called a criminal despite never being convicted of it. Which is common on this board. (I’m not criticizing that, I do it too.)
That was the worst thing I know about concernng Christie. He has priorities and goals different than I would prefer, but other than sticking with Trump for way too long, I could tolerate him. I long for days when the parties just had policy differences and didn’t accuse the Democrats (“Marxists and deviants”) of actively trying to ruin this control for power and wealth.
It’s unlikely to an extreme extent that I’ll ever cast a vote for Chris Christie. But I did a double fist pump when he upended Marco Rubio in the 2016 primaries. I hope he eviscerates Trump over and over. He’s good medicine for the Republican Party, if not necessarily being good for the US as a presidential candidate.
Speaking as a social liberal, fiscally responsible moderate… I’m sure he won’t be selected, and for the matter would prefer that he wouldn’t be. Christie, as you say, is corrupt in the old fashioned way, and if he was running on the GOP nomination, a number of currently uncomfortable conservative Democrats and Moderates would be more likely to stop holding their noses while voting (D) and vote for him instead.
I may not find Biden inspiring (that isn’t to say I hate him, and didn’t/wouldn’t vote for him), but we have far too much GOP authoritarianism from Trump and McConnell to want even a moderately corrupt if sane (R) in office just yet.
Granted, if the winds blew an overwhelming red wave towards us, I’d take Christie over most of the GOP field as it stands right now as a the far lesser of evils. At least, he’d be among the least likely to pardon Trump, and if we’re ever going to have a chance to fix the rot that he fertilized in the current party, he must be (and be seen doing so) tried by the laws of the nation and held accountable as any other person would be.
Right. Even if Christie by himself wouldn’t be that bad, that (R) with his name comes with a lot. It still validates the Republican party and their antics. And presidents don’t usually come in alone: they usually get a bump in the legislature.
It’s why the idea of voting on the candidate rather than the party seems like just an ideal to me. You need a very, very good candidate to override the party issue. The parties have more power than the individual.
Your opinion isn’t supported by facts. What specific crime do you think he committed? If you can’t come up with one, that’s not common sense. It is blind speculation. And it isn’t naive to dismiss it.
I think this project is back on and would have been done by now if he hadn’t stopped it. It was short sighted of him, and I think it cost NJ hundreds of millions to back out of it back then, right? Anyone commuting to Midtown would also benefit.
He also did tons of accounting shenanigans to make it seem like the budget was balanced, mortgaging the future. I think all the governors probably did that, though.
Anyway, he’ll never make it out of the primaries, but it should be fun watching him skewer Trump.