I need advice for working at 7-Eleven

Oh, sweet Jesus. I am so, so terribly sorry. ::laughing:

I was, in fact, able to get some sleep. I woke up just a few minutes ago, at 11:20 a.m., so about 3 hours of decent sleep. It’s not, perfect; I need more, but at least I’m out of immediate danger.

While I was on the phone with my pastor this morning, Work Ethic Woman called me back and I had to pause my converstion with Pastor to speak to Work Ethic Woman:

Work Ethic Woman: “Bad news, eke. I spoke to Boss Lady and she needs you to come in. She couldn’t find coverage.”

Me [without breaking a sweat]: “Nope.”

WEW: “Hm?”

Me: “I’m sorry, but I’m in a crisis. I just spent the last half-hour crying over the Suicide Hotline.”

WEW: “Oh, jeez; that bad, huh?”

Me: "Yes. I’m not suicidal; too many people love me for me to do that. But I am in crisis, and it’s because I’ve been dedicating myself selflessly to this job. It’s come to a head, and I have nothing left to give now.

"Now, I’ll come in Thursday and work then, even though Thursday is supposed to be my day off, which hasn’t been respected for the last two weeks when she knows I’ve got church stuff. But if you’ll give Mentor two days off in a row for physical health, and you won’t give me off one day for nearly having a nervous breakdown, there’s something seriously wrong here. There is a very real stigma. And if you try to force me to come in, I will quit, and then you’ll really be up shit creek without a paddle.

“I’m working 7-Eleven as a means to gather disposable income. I was subsisting on SSI by itself, and I do have the ability to go back to that, and it’ll be a lot healthier for me in the long run, quite frankly, but after spending an entire shift babysitting a future felon, and getting bitched at for following the law and checking IDs, I’m just about out of fucks to give.”

That was the basic gist of what I said; not a direct quote. She asked me if I wanted to call the boss and say that, and I said, “Nope; it’s on you. I’m done talking with the boss for today. I need to get some sleep before I end up back in the hospital.”

She said she’d talk to the boss.

Later, I tried to call the boss and give a brief explanation of the fight between me and Thief, but I didn’t realize she’s staying in Western Canada and it was like 5 o’clock in the morning there, so it was a bad time to talk, even though she’d been talking to Work Ethic Woman.

Well, hey, you’re the one with the open-door office policy. Literally, in this case. Now that I’m awake, I’ll try to hit her up again before Thief poisons her mind as to what really happened.

I caught Boss Lady on her way to the Seattle Space Needle. We’ll talk when the revels, now, have ended.

You know what? I’m an upbeat guy. I’m going to choose to accentuate the positive now. Especially since the one positive vote above, for the Benefit Concert, was from me.

This poll is public.

What is the most heartwarming story from Day 27 above?

  • Very brief bonding with Journey Man over Journey (I still can’t understand him very well, for what it’s worth, and the interaction lasted 3 minutes; this would be a very poor choice)
  • Fourth child? Great, another child to love
  • “Don’t work too hard; they can replace you in 5 minutes”
  • Cat Lady and Gamblers’ Free Concert which inspired me to start a series of Benefit Concerts
  • Arabic man being very sweet about me speaking Spanish to him
  • Pianist and songwriter girl
  • “Don’t let one screwup ruin your whole life”
  • “We’re all brothers in the sight of the Lord”
  • “Making the world a better place, one customer at a time”
  • Learning conversational Spanish through Duolingo

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I don’t like saying this but, be happy you are employed. I’m not, and had to deal with begging on cashapp, where two people have offered to send me money if I send them some first, 50, and 10 respectively. It won’t let me, somehow. Pretty sure they want me to be a sugar baby.
Relax on day off, I look forward to your saga.

Here is the text conversation I had in the 7-Eleven group chat just now on my mental health day off from work.

Me: Briefing for those who have never done the 7Now app. Thief, I meant to mention this last night, but I had to hustle. When it asks for your password, six spaces appear on the screen, but you only type in your 4-digit login pin. Don’t worry about the other two digits. App is tripping.

Me: Sprite and lemonade are out on the fountain drinks. No one seems to know how to replace them. We’ve got plenty of boxes for it. Don’t know about those two flavors specifically. It is so easy the video is less than a minute long. You can commit to a minute, right? You love your job as much as I do? (And I linked to the video.)

Me: If someone can get on that before someone bitches at me tomorrow about it, I’d be very much obliged. Shift One? Mentor? Anyone?

Mystery Person: Do your job only. You are not a field consultant nor a market manager to find fault of other employees.

Me: Whoever said that needs to understand that that is an unhealthy attitude. It is my job. Training people is part of my job. You want to explain to people why their Sprite isn’t working? Knock yourself out.

Boss Lady: Good morning everyone! What I really want from each of every one of you, follow the job assignments. Plus sell. Give good customer service. Just to let everyone know, Assistant Manager is the acting store manager. What she says is what needs to be followed. I will stand behind Assistant Manager. Very simple. Thank you.
(Mystery Person 2 likes the post. Oh, I’m being double-teamed.)

Me: I am not blaming anyone. I’m saying that no one, no one knows how to do this. We’ve been waiting for the ICEE guy. Well, he came and went without showing me how to do it, despite me begging him to. If you want minimum effort for minimum wage, I can do that, but I don’t think you’ll like the result. And notice that I didn’t blame anyone or point the finger. I am saying that there is a critical weakness in the store, and we need to fix it.

Me: So is it your opinion, Boss Lady, that we should all go indefinitely without any of us knowing how to restock the fountain drinks, just because we can’t be bothered to watch a one-minute video? Because it seems to me that that is what you are implying. Are we going to improve, and be the store I know we can be, or are we going to maintain status quo? All I ask is that you refill the dang Sprite so customers can use it. It won’t take but a minute, and you’ll learn a new skill.

Assistant Manager: It is so easy how to replace it, eke. I will show you how on your next day. And I thank you for your willingness to learn and be of help. strong arm emoji thumbs up heart

Boss Lady: When I get back, I will talk to you individually. [Ed Note: Ooooh, I’m really scared!] Let me get even one day of my vacation stress-free. Thank you.
(Assistant Manager likes that post.)

Me: Thank you. You heard what Assistant Manager said, folks. She’s the one in charge. It’s good that someone has my back after the day I had yesterday. I’m taking a much needed mental health day off from work today, but I will be back on Thursday and work my regular schedule.
(Assistant Manager likes that post.)

Me: Okay, Boss Lady. I look forward to that conversation. Enjoy your time in Seattle today. Anyway, this is my mental health day off from work, so I will be incommunicado for store subjects. I’m going to listen to music, drink Coca-Cola, and try to take my mind off the festering rage I feel. Shift two, sell sell sell!

Are you sure that your coworkers and especially your bosses would be comfortable with your sharing of your store’s group chat on the wider internet?

I checked, and it’s not illegal. And I didn’t use names, and no one knows a specific location. And I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to accept being dressed-down by my boss for trying to help the store. That shit ain’t happening. Fuck that.

Besides, no one knows I’m even journaling, let alone where to find it. Worst-case scenario, they fire me, and I can find better pay and benefits doing almost anything I want. Or I’ll take my benefit concerts on the road. I was made for more than this.

It’s your boss. If she doesn’t give a shit, why should you? You don’t have any fiscal interest in the store. If she wants to run a shit show, that’s her deal. I don’t mean for this to be cynical and jaded, but distancing yourself a bit emotionally from the store might be helpful (unless I’m reading you wrong.) I might also keep things like sharing your “festering rage” off a communication with your boss. That’s best thought and left unsaid, I think. Just an “ok, see you when you get back.”

No one suggested it was illegal, but it may not be in your own best interest as an employee.

They’d have to catch me first. Boss Lady is the only one who even knows the word “ekedolphin”, and I doubt she’s trawling my social media history.

At 3:20 p.m., despite my insistence to not be contacted for store operations for the rest of the day, Work Ethic Lady texted me.

WEW: Okay, the shift you were supposed to work today now has Slow Old Lady, and Mentor is back to work. I am hoping you can still work with us at 7-11.**

Me: Yes. I will be there tomorrow. Even though Thursday is supposed to be my day off for choir practice and I put it on my application and told her why, and this is the second wek in a row and we’re gearing up for the Christmas season. Even so. I know my duty to work, and I hope it’s appreciated, and I will not tolerate disrespect or disciplinary action from Boss Lady or anyone else. The store needs me much more than I need it, and I know it. I hold all the cards. I am a damn good employee. I work hard every day to improve myself. I’m good with the customers. I am now learning Spanish so I can speak with the Hispanics. How many white people do that for 11 dollars an hour? If I’m not treated better, you will lose me. I can get paid a lot more money doing almost anything else I want, and I’ll be happier too and not on the phone with 988, my pastor, and my dad bawling my eyes out. I have a mental health condition which is controlled by medication. I am not a manager, but I am trying to help us improve. And I get attitude for trying to help train on something as simple as restocking the goddamn fountain machine. I will not tolerate this.**

Anyway, Slow Old Lady now knows how to write things off. Because of me. [WEW saw me teach her.] I showed her the first time, and she showed me the second time and got it right and even corrected me when I made a mistake. She is awesome and undervalued. And I am very proud of her. Anyway, I love and respect your work ethic above everyone else’s, and I say this with all due respect, but this is my mental health day and as I previously indicated, I will not be accepting any store communication for the rest of the day, even from Boss Lady. If she can piss off to Vancouver for a week, I can take a day off. We don’t even get PTO here. I love this job and don’t want to leave, but I almost didn’t clock in on Day 1. Have a good day, [Name]. I’ll see you tomorrow.

This. So, so very much all of this.

(There’s a lot of value in biting your tongue rather than sending novella-length texts, especially when you’re in a bad head-space.)

I would be surprised if she read much past this point.

I wouldn’t. Work Ethic Woman, I consider a friend. Anyway, I did lead with that, so TL;DR on everything else.

@ekedolphin Just FYI, I’ve hired people before, and don’t worry about disclosing how you’re chatty if/when you interview. A big part of the interview is determining a person’s personality, and if you are outgoing and chatty in the interview, they’ll assume you will be during the job as well. That’s not something you necessarily need to disclose. If I were you, I’d keep that in your back pocket if they ask one of those dreaded (and in my opinion terrible) questions like, “name your greatest strengths and weaknesses”. Because giving a “weakness” in an interview that sounds plausible but doesn’t tank the interview can be a challenge. Saying “I’m outgoing and chatty, and I don’t let it interfere with my work but not everyone appreciates that” is an excellent “weakness” example to give.

(My go-to “weakness” is that I can be detail-oriented and don’t give up on solving problems, which can be a good thing but can sometimes mean I spend too long on an issue before giving up. Which is all completely true yet doesn’t make me sound awful.)

During my most recent hiring, when I had to bring on a new IT technician (for a temporary job), one of the candidates was very chatty and liked to tell stories. We knew that just from the interview, because he did it in the interview. It was a concern, but he ended up getting the job. And indeed, he does tend to do that, but he’s also awesome and was a great hire. And he ended up going from that temporary job to a different position, one that is highly-placed and permanent. He has a huge role at our agency now. (I’m personally very proud of that.)

Just some advice from the other side of the interview table. (As a bit of disclosure, I’m not a manager or even supervisor where I work, but I’ve been a temporary supervisor at times, including the last time I hired someone, and I get asked to be on a lot of interview panels for people. So I see the other side of the process quite a bit.)

I don’t know if other stores in the area were unionised or not, but when I was working in a grocery store (as a baker) the owner supposedly gave us all better than average benefits in order to keep the unions out.

Day 28: A 3-8 shift on a Thursday. Another goddamn Thursday night missing choir practice. By my count, that makes three.

I arrived 30 minutes early because Mom had to go to a doctor’s appointment. I was allowed to punch in early. Before I came in, I had a talk with The Kid, the 18-year-old who helped me out on Day 1, and has a wide smile, a great personality, and a work ethic as wide as the day is long.

I needed to have a hard to heart with him while he was doing trash. He once told me that, since he started at the tender and very illegal age of 13 at this store, he could run it better than Boss Lady at this point.

I used the OREO method of constructive criticism on him. Give him a compliment, hit him with a dose of reality, end with a compliment. That’s how I roll, instinctively.

I told him the wonderful things I think about him, and said that he’s inexperienced and he’s young, and every 18-year-old thinks they know everything and that’s not the case. I deliberately wore a T-shirt my parents picked up on their second honeymoon to Maui in 1998 to illustrate this point. It’s got a couple holes in it and is not perfect, but overall, I’ve taken good care of it over the years. It’s holey but still functional, and is is fuckin’ six years older than he is. Don’t try to grow up too fast. Besides, both of us were made for more than working at a convenience store the rest of our lives, and this is just a stepping stone to bigger and better things.

I walked into the store, and before clocking in, I had a conversation with Journey Man. “¡Hola, mi amigo! ¿Como estas?” And I wasn’t done with him yet, either. I can understand Journey Man for the first time in my life, and it’s wonderful, because he’s a great guy. I told him I was learning Spanish and I was already on Unit 3. Now that, we can bond over.

Journey Man has a wicked sense of humor, too. He told me to get the fire extinguisher, that there seemed to be a truck on fire out there. It was just blowing a lot of exhaust. Smartass.

Someone came in with their gift card they purchased from us, and a copy of the receipt, and was missing $400 off of it. It never got loaded properly. They didn’t have the proper paper copy, and we can’t figure out what the problem is. Grandma was the one who wrote it up. (New nickname for “Slow Old Lady”, which is just as much of a slur as “Foreign Man”. Moreso, since it’s a statement of opinion and not fact.)

First Big Story: When Mentor came in, I had already gotten one person to sign up for the Rewards program. My goal for the day was 10. I was about to challenge him to see who could get more, but before I could practically open his mouth, he said, “I’ve got a challenge for you-- we need to talk when we get free.” Uh-oh. “We need to talk.” And that didn’t happen for four hours, because we were so, so busy, and we had a guy on the lotto machines fucking around. The tension and anxiety built throughout the night, and it was very stressful.

I’m going to go ahead and skip to what we were talking about, even though it was obviously not in chronological order. First off, he told me that Grandma is intimidated by me, and felt belittled and frightened of me, for making her, an 82-year-old lady, take out the trash. First of all, I never made her do anything. I merely request people to complete certain tasks. I have no more authority to give her orders than does my late pet cat, and he’s been dead for 20 years. Secondly, she never complained to me. Thirdly, it didn’t occur to me that she wouldn’t be able to handle it. Fourthly, l wanted to put us where I thought we would do the most good-- me, in front of the customers as the public face of the store, her, doing chores. But apparently, I was wrong for making an 82-year-old grandmother with an intellectual disability do the trash after dark, as if she was afraid she was going to be raped or something. I don’t know, is there something I’m missing here? If I’d known she felt that way, I would have done it myself. We need to work on our communication.

I assured Mentor that I meant nothing by it, and I didn’t know she felt that way, and I have nothing but great respect for Grandma, and I will make it right by her, I will get down on my hands and knees begging her to forgive me and serenade her if that’s what it takes to make this right. I fuckin’ love that woman.

I sang a lot during my work shift, more so than usual, even more so. I did it as a way of coping with the stress. Mentor wasn’t bothered by it, I asked him, and my customers seemed to like it. I invited Mentor to my concert series.

Second Big Story: I pushed the 7Rewards program like crazy (although I never signed up anyone against their will) and got 5 already in the first half-hour of my shift. 30 minutes. 5 Rewards. I ended up with 8 by the end of the night. It’s so easy to sign up for, and it doesn’t cost anything, and it makes you look like a million bucks. It’s easy, very easy to sell. Some people are in too much of a hurry, though. Mentor didn’t push it, and in fact, I had to teach him how to sign someone up for one.

Three Black men, on the opposite side of the hot dog display from me, were chatting with me. One of them requested something and I replied to the wrong person. Their faces were all obstructed by the display and it was a mistake that was very easy to make, but one of them looked very offended even after I explained myself. What a special little snowflake. He’s just looking for a reason to be offended.

Third Big Story: I spoke my vastly improved Spanish to every Hispanic I could find, and even some white and Black people, trying to keep up with my practice. The Hispanics were very, very impressed.

I don’t remember the context, but I got along great with a sweet Black lady who was so impressed by my customer service that she turned to the other people in line and was like, “Wow!” And she gladly went out to get her ID when I had to card her for cigarettes. I think I made her day. She called me “Mr. ekedolphin”, so I’m calling her “Mr. ekedolphin Lady.”

Cute Puerto RIcan Guy, the one I have a crush on, came in twice today, and apparently heard some of the conversation I had with Mentor, because the second time, he asked if Mentor and I were fighting. Since Mentor made it clear that store business is store business, I told CPRG that we’re just having a teaching moment about store business, and I can’t talk about it, even with someone I love as much as CPRG. I said that, too. I told him I loved him. But he didn’t take it like that.

I found out that The Kid has been working here since he was 13. Boss Lady has been flagrantly violating child labor laws, as many, many immigrants do, and has gotten away with it. Yet I’m the one who’s going to apparently be called out on the carpet for embarrassing Boss Lady on the group chat. Well, if she fires me, I’ll have pretty good evidence for a wrongful termination lawsuit and a breach of a written deal to give me the raise for mastering the 7Now app. Even Mentor is at minimum wage.

I spoke Spanish to a cute Hispanic girl, and she told me it was helping her learn English.

Mentor told me I wasn’t in trouble with Boss Lady, not really, but I do owe her an apology, which I gave her over text and voice message, and she said she’d talk to me when she gets back. She was getting on the plane back home from western Canada; Vancouver, I think.

I clocked out at 8:15 and spent from 8:15 to 9:45 waiting for my ride, playing a little Duolingo and telling jokes, singing songs, and getting a couple of winks.

What is the biggest story from Day 28?
  • First Big Story: “We need to talk”
  • Second Big Story: Big Rewards sales numbers
  • Third Big Story: Speaking Spanish to Hispanics
  • Something else not listed

0 voters

What is the most heartwarming story from Day 28?
  • Talk with The Kid before work
  • Bonding with Journey Man over Spanish
  • Cute Puerto Rican Guy asking if I was okay
  • Helping Hispanic girl learn English

0 voters

While everything you said to The Kid was, technically, the truth … I have to wonder just what in the hell was the purpose here.

What on earth was the goal you were trying to achieve with this convo/lecture?

I need to let him know that he’s not hot shit. I’m not saying he’s shit. He could run the joint one day, and I’d be proud to work for him. But he has previously stated to me on more than one occasion that he can run the store better than Boss Lady. And he can’t. She’s been running three stores longer than he’s been alive, by far. He needs to check himself before he wrecks himself, that’s all I had to say.

Oh, that’s just typical teenager bravado. Just chuckle indulgently and let him do his teenage boy thing.

You really can’t lecture sense into teenagers, especially out of the clear blue like that. They gotta learn some things for themselves.

ETA: why do you “need” to let him know he’s not hot shit? Who’s he hurting? You? If not, then … not your problem.

He’s a good kid who’s just in need of a positive male role model who’s not familia.

I could be that for him if we ever worked together.

Yesterday when I went on my break that’s not really a break, I closed the office door so I could have privacy to make s phone call. Mentor opened it back up and said since there’s stuff going on, the door should always be open.

So, what, privacy only in the bathroom?

Have you ever seen Tangled? Mother Gothel’s room has a door. Rapunzel’s doesn’t. Gothel can always block off Raps, but Raps is always accessible.

This is textbook, documented, abusive behavior at its shittiest. I don’t get more than 20 seconds to myself unless I’m taking a dump.