I Pit Amazing Grace Baptist Church

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“Did you ever get cum in your eye, Gabriel? It BURRRRRRNS!”

Points to the first non-gay Doper who posts the title of the movie…

I’ll see what I can do. But it’s a bit more complex than just pithy quotables. Basically Christ didn’t go in for the ‘Who is a bigger sinner’ game. And really, Paul wrote more about the proper use of sex than anyone else in the New Testament. He was of the opinion that one shouldn’t have sex at all, but if they are going to then the proper venue was within marriage for procreation. I’ll see if I can find the bit in Corinthians where he talks to people about it.

Here’s something interesting while I do some more research.

http://www.gospel.com/topics/spill+seed

Sex with a woman during Menstruation:

http://www.atruechurch.info/sexduringmenstruation.html

That’s why Matisyahu never signs autographs for women–no way to tell if they’re menstruating, doncha know.

That makes me want to put on some Matisyahu. I love the track he did with Crystal Method - Drown in the Now.

Sure, but I think* that the cite request was for evidence that the reason you shouldn’t nail a menstruating woman was because it couldn’t lead to pregnancy.

The books of the law (Leviticus? probably) say you shouldn’t have sex with a menstruating woman, but I always figured it was because she was perceived as ‘unclean.’

In fact, Abraham clearly got it on with his wife even though he and Sarah both believed she was barren. No chance of pregnancy, but not a sin. So, you know, counter-example to your overarching ‘rule.’

*I know you have difficulty apprehending when you respond to one person, and a different person questions your response, so this time I’m highlighting it for you.

I think the point is that there is a lot of allegory related to sowing one’s seed in fertile soil. The only reason that it matters that she is unclean is because the soil that you’d be tilling is polluted.

I think that at this point I am simply not capable of adequately getting into this depth of a theological discussion.

Menstruation? They referred to it as a “woman’s sickness”. I doubt they knew that it was the flushing of a non-fertilized egg, hence making the “ground barren”, or whatever. Chrissakes, I’m not fully convinced that they had fully put two and two together that fucking is the cause of babies. These were not enlightened times we’re talking about.

Wait - what now?

And yet you are allowed to marry, and homosexuals are not. So while Christ didn’t go in for the ‘Who is a bigger sinner’ game, his followers sure did.

Cause as in origin, not cause as in platform.

This isn’t even a response to what I typed you just found it an excuse to express your ennui.

Oh, come on now. They weren’t stupid. For example, witness how people thought Joseph should put Mary aside because she’d clearly been sleeping around and wasn’t a virgin, as evidenced by the fact that she was eating a lot of pickles and didn’t fit into her skinny robes anymore.

I don’t qualify for the points but just gotta say ‘well played’.:smiley:

“So where was I… so I’m lickin’ his balls…”

Speaking of spilling one’s seed in the ancient world, it’s worth remembering that seed was not a euphemism. The role- for that matter the existence of the egg in conception would not be known for more than 1700 years after Paul, and it was honestly believed that sperm was seed- itty bitty babiesthat incubated in the mother. To have sex that wasn’t procreational was killing itty bitty babies.

Right, people in an agrarian society understood things like ovulation cycles and how to breed. People have this idea that no one knew anything until Science came along to explain it. You don’t need to know about an ovum to know that it’s not a proper time to breed when someone is on their period.

They saw women as like the ground; there’s a right time to plant and a wrong time. They didn’t understand the mechanics of fertilization but they knew the ‘symptoms’. (I grew up knewing old hillbillies who could barely read, let alone understand the physics of vaporization and condensation, but they could still make moonshine- same principal). And of course if they had any doubts about it the wife or wives could help them out by saying “Come plow me Big Ahinodoab! Plow me like the Jezreel!”

Yeah. Who wants to fuck some sick broad?

Yes, that’s what I mean. A woman’s monthly cycle is not unlike that of the seasons.