I don’t recall you being involved in WWII discussions here, so really, how are you to know what is stupid or not? Most people here all want the same thing, for DD knock off that annoying shit he does in thread after thread after thread.
I don’t care about him writing “a apple” but I can recognize that other people are frustrated with different aspects of his posting without feeling the need to argue that only my annoyances are valid.
As someone (maybe even you) pointed out, the reason he’s getting flack for his idiosyncrasies is because he’s an annoying poster.
DD is getting his father brought into this thread specifically because of his utilization of his father in WWII threads in attempts to trump experts’ judgments in hijacks he initiates.
One common complain is his introduction of secret insiders into arguments where they can’t be impeached, and that’s the role his father plays in WWII discussions.
That is the summary. Most people aren’t interested in the details, but that’s the only way to show why he’s receiving this treatment. It’s not from the distant past. There was a thread last year with a many-page hijack which he started and continued to argue against everyone, using his father again and again.
TLDR version:
As I said in my deconstruction of his various claims, there is a controversy over MacArthur’s apparent mental breakdown after Pear Harbor was attacked (which occurred 2:00 am Philippine time) and the 10 hours or so before Japan subsequently attacked the Philippines.
Professional scholars have noted that breakdowns among commanders are common. It’s been pointed out of a prominent historian that Mac had conflicting loyalties as the commander of the US Army forces as well as Field Marshall of the Philippine Islands. Whatever, the point isn’t to argue specifics in a thread not about WWII as it’s boring as fuck for those who don’t care. But some background is needed.
Many, many times, DD will hijack a WWII thread to introduce his father’s theory. This was him in an August thread last year about Midway, not about how America got into the war.
At which point, he now hijacks the thread into multiple-page “discussion,” which should be familiar to anyone who has engaged with him in any thread, consisting of many other posters pointing out how ridiculous his position is, and he retorts with absurdities, “no one can prove this didn’t happen,” “it’s still a mystery.” with people telling him:
but he will never quit.
He attacks other posters by using his father:
I’m not going to quote the whole damn thread and the many times DD is arguing this stupid hijack of an otherwise interesting thread. But in it, he repeatedly implies a special relationship between his father and “Doug” or the other players.
See, you are doing to freak out because he wrote “tho” and “enof” where I’m deeply unhappy that he’s implying a special place in history with “he was pulled back to Macs command unit “by personal request”- name withheld.”
Again, as Little_Nemo says:
So this is why we’re giving him shit and I’m mocking him for this “special knowledge.” This is not the first WWII thread he’s hijacked, as anyone who has ever encountered him on the Dope can imagine.
All I want (and I’m sure that a lot of other WWII buffs agree) is that he drop this stupid hijack of WWII threads and stop claiming a greater sense of importance of his father’s role. If his father served in WWII, then great, wonderful. We are appreciative of the service, but stop the fucking hijacks.
In the latest WWII thread, which was active up to last month, DD finally got overly enthusiastic about his father’s war record and made the claims which can be shown to not be realistic.
His story simply doesn’t make sense. He claims his father was a civilian on December 8th, 1941, arriving as a civilian aircrew for Boeing. What was a manufacturer doing sending a plane into an expected war zone? This itself is improbable but not completely impossible. But it’s only the first of many increasingly more improbable as well as virtually impossible steps. How many of things can happen to one person?
Father volunteers. OK, he obviously can’t be sent back for basic training, and rather than the logical step of being assigned to the US Far East Air Force where his training as an experience flight crew (if that is accurate) would be useful, he is placed as a raw recruit in GHQ where – despite knowing nothing of military life – not only doesn’t get underfoot or cause problems in one of the most chaotic periods of US military history, he somehow gets noticed by the senior officer staff and later in the war he was “pulled back to Macs command unit “by personal request”- name withheld.”
His latest “cite” in this thread is equally problematic and as is typical of DD, it actually hurts his case more that it helps. He’s claiming that his father’s medical evacuation from the Philippines was arranged by his father’s B-17 “buddies”. Many problems with this.
First, the B-17s were 600 miles away in Minadao and there was a complete blockage in place. How does he get down to Minadao? I already demonstrated that was impossible for a raw recruit. How does someone suffering from malaria travel there?
How does he become buddies with the bomber crew in the two or three days before they are withdrawn Luzon?
The longer he is in GHQ, the more impossible it is for him to get out. As a civilian-recruit, how can he get from Luzon to Midanao? Everyone was bugging out December 11 - 12, three to four days after he arrives in PI.
By December 25, it was completely impossible.
He’s a civilian on December 8th. All forms of escape are essentially gone by December 12. But he’s in GHQ for (not stated) days, enough to get noticed by name withheld for doing some sort of outstanding job.
As I wrote last time, there were 24,000 American and Filipino defenders with Malaria at the time. Why could he leave? Whose naked pictures did his father have? It doesn’t make sense.
I enthusiastically agree that someone doesn’t understand the term “scuttlebutt,” but sadly, it may not be someone who never wore a uniform who was confused.
As I quoted earlier, this is what DD stated in August last year:
One of these statements is not like the other. Could it be the one which suggests a personal relationship with “Doug”.
DD’s story is evolving from when he wanted his father to be seen as a insider, an player. All the weasel words now don’t take back the pages of searchable posts. He wrote what he wrote.