I pit my Mom for attending when I asked her not too...

My mother and I have a very strained relationship. I began this OP with a long history of her zaniness and self centered bullshit, but I realized it was irrelevant to my point. She has Borderline Personality Disorder, and if you know anything about that, you know how trying our relationship can be. We had an incident in November that was the icing on the cake, and we have only spoken twice since them.

I have kids who love her. And she loves them. I have to work hard to strike a healthy balance in her time with them. We had decided that she would pick them up at 12:15 (after church) in front of my church, and take them to lunch.

Originally Mom wanted to get them Saturday to spend the night and take them to her church (NO FUCKING WAY!). Then she said she would bring them to my church and sit with them. I told her that we had something going on regarding my work in Costa Rica that I wanted the kids to see, so no…

Mom is a fag-bashing fundie. Our theologies are complete opposites. I have given much of my time and money working on behalf of a small village in Costa Rica. She says I should be helping someone in the good ol’ USA, not people who want to come take our jobs. She spends her time ensuring gays cannot marry and NBC cannot show (the short-lived) "Book of Daniel. (please - lets not get into the ignorance therein)

This Sunday was a big deal to me. I have taken two groups down to Costa Rica to work with the orphan food program. These folks and I have worked very hard on this project. The next step is to secure the building they are using so everything they have doesn’t get stolen all the time. We will need about $7,000 to build the necessary walls to make this happen.

Yesterday we had a video presentation in church, after which I got up in front of 500 people and asked for $7k. I was feeling a lot of pressure because so much was riding on me being able to communicate the desparate need in this small village to my church. You only get one chance to ask for $7k.

So back to our agreement that she would pick the kids up at 12:15 in front of the church…

During the service I climb the daiz and begin to talk about how important the mission is for these orphans, and how I believe we can help…then I look out and see my mom in the congregation grinning like an idiot. So in the middle of my presentation I am struck by “is that mom?” and “WTF is she doing here?” I completely lost my game in the middle of the talk. I go back on track, but it may have been obvious I was scrambling for a minute.

So mom why the FUCK were you there? You haven’t been supportive, in fact you have ACTIVELY tried to sabotage my efforts in Costa Rica. WTF were you thinking? I realize, even though you do not, that your borderline personality makes you unable to recognize or respect boundaries. But this was important! Did you not know that me seeing you out there would come as a shock to me? A distraction? Did you not care? What the fuck?

But you made your point. You are going to go where you want. You are going to do what you like. If I ask you to meet me in front of the church, you will come in to show that you can. and certainly you CAN! But should you? Should you sit in the congregation while your estranged son makes a presentation? If you feel you must, don’t you think you should warn me that you are coming before I see you from the platform?

FUCK!

I could be wrong here, but maybe your mother just wanted to see her son make a presentation to the whole congregation. Mothers can be funny that way.

Next time don’t tell her what you’re doing. Just say, “You can see them between noon and 2pm on Sunday. I’ll drop them off.”

I asked her not to because we are not on good terms and she does not support my efforts in CR.

If she felt she just had to come, she could have told me instead of blindsiding me while I was giving a presentation.

Country song title!

I can definitely sympathize, but you are not much of an “estranged son”. Estranged sons don’t have their Moms take the kids for an afternoon. Idyllically, they don’t even live in the same state as their Mom.

I think that would have to be post-punk alt-country. Maybe Neko Case could do the honors.

Stranger

I will work on that.

newcrasher, my mom is BPD also - I understand exactly what you mean. I’m so sorry, I can imagine how unnerving that was. Given the circumstances, I’d imagine your congregation will support your work regardless, but it would’ve been nice if you could’ve enjoyed your moment on your own terms. I’d imagine that’s exactly WHY she showed up.

I hope that $7k shows up real soon!

Shit, newscrasher, that sucks. My mom has a personality disorder, so I get how frustrating it can be to deal with someone like this. Kudos to you for trying to let your kids have good experiences with her, even when it costs you. She might convince others she was there to be supportive, and she might even convince herself, but trust your gut–it wasn’t supportive, and it wasn’t fair to you.

Hey, cut me some slack. :frowning:

I’m gonna have to agree with Magellan01 here–and no, I don’t like that anymore than he does. Just feels wrong.

Anywho, I’m not convinced Mom had any ill intent here. In her mind, since she was picking up the grandkids anyway, why not slip in a little early and catch her son doing his thing?

Yeah…probably right…

I realize a lot of posters here might not see the big deal inherent in all of this, but I get the sense that this was hardly the first time Mom did something to violate your personal boundaries, and it’s more of a “straw that broke the camel’s back” kind of scenario. I really don’t blame you for being upset–coming from someone who loves and respects you it’s really not anything to gripe about, but when it’s just another violation on top of another long string of violations then of course you’re going be pissed off and hurt.

FWIW, your work sounds freakin’ AWESOME.

What she said. Even a zany grandma is better than no grandma at all. And you’re showing your kids that even though you don’t approve of some of her ideas (if any at all), she’s still family, and sometimes you just have to try to get along with people, no matter how much they may aggravate you. I believe that kids need as much love as they can get.

I hope your Costa Rica project goes well.

Borderline Personality Disorder changes the entire tone of her action from “loving and friendly” to “just another outrageous thing she did after being told not to”.

You guys haven’t dealt with BPD, have you. She didn’t want to see him make a presentation to the congregation - that would have been about him.

My ex-mom is BPO too, and she would do this kind of thing just to remind everyone who the universe revolves around. Do what I did, newcrasher: move to a different state and return all mail to sender.

Until you have a BPO parent, you might not understand that a “zany” ( :rolleyes: ) grandma may not, in fact, be better than none at all. My mother is not “zany,” she’s a monstrous human being who hurts people. My dad gives his 3-yr-old granddaughter vodka because it’s funny to watch her stumble.

Trust your instincts, newcrasher; just because she’s blood doesn’t mean she’s good for you or your children.

Yeah, I agree with the people with BPD experience. I can see why some would say she is just a mom who wants to see her son do his thing.

But this is just one in a long series of making it ALL ABOUT HER! It is pathological.

Just few examples…

…when I was 13 I caught her making out with a man who was not my father while they were married…

…in the ensuing divorce I was called to testify in the judges private chambers about who should have custody of my younger brother. A few days before I went to court she told me if I testified against her she would kill herself… I was 14…
…during the divorce she took all of the pictures of my recently deceased 5 year old brother and used them for leverage against my father…i stiole them back and had copies made and she had me arrested…I was 15…

I could go on, but I think you get the point…