Not a liar necessarily, but could easily be the kind of non-self-aware person that does not realize his experience is not the general experience and compounds that with being far too stubborn.
Next up split_p_j argues that nobody had heard of J.K Rollings until she came out with The Casual Vacancy.
I agree that may have been his peak am ratings period. I’m saying Limbaugh became a Stern like huge figure post 9/11.
Not that Sterns politics are like Limbaugh, but just that that was when Limbaugh really became part of the national conversation. Like conservatives may have been bowing down to him since ‘93’ but no one else had ever really heard of him.
After 9/11 he was huge, front and center. I think it’s pretty clear that’s what I’m say and have said.
Plenty of people knew who Limbaugh was, even if they didn’t listen to him. Hell, I was a minor for his real heyday and I still knew who the Simpsons was making fun of with Birch Barlow, the “fourth branch of government” and “the fifty-first state” and the author of the book Only Turkeys Have Left Wings . At least definitely by some time the show was in syndication if not the time of the original episode premiere.
Does that mean a lot of my fellow students did? Probably not, unless they happened to have parents that were big Limbaugh listeners (my parents definitely were not) or maybe saw his short lived TV show during summer break. I can’t really say when I became aware of Limbaugh myself.
For which you have provided absolutely zero evidence.
You’re saying it and we’re saying you’re incorrect.
Then you make up more crap to support your position that is factually incorrect.
For TV maybe they did. I did a Neilson radio survey diary about 10 years ago and they just wanted to know the stations and time and day.
Not the name of any show.
Maybe, but we’re talking the 90s which is when I did do the Nielsons and what @crowmanyclouds described is accurate.
I tend to disbelieve your memory on this one. You’ve proven very unreliable so far.
Limbaugh was definitely a creature of the 90s and AM radio. Maybe he would have had more staying power in the country’s consciousness had Gore won, but I still think the spread of the internet, cable, and Fox News was going to reduce his audience and reach. Even the websites that were big in the late 90s generally didn’t last too long in the public mind. I made a joke in a Discord channel heavily populated by younger (like under 30) members referencing the old Drudge Report siren and got maybe one person who got it.
To be fair, radio is a different beast from TV. I don’t think there was ever a question of recording what you heard on the radio, just what station and for how long.
So if you put in Station 1160 AM, time 12:30-1:00 and day Thursday, they would look up what was playing on that station then and see you had tuned in to listen to Limbaugh. I’m not sure what your point is.
Also this was from a collectable card game in 1996, showing that at that point Dittohead was already in the popular lexicon.
All they asked was what station I was listing to at certain blocks of time every day. No program names. It was a written diary for every day of the survey.
Wow, how could they possibly know what program you were listening to with that little information?
Maybe you live in a urban area where Limbaugh would have been one among many broadcasts and he escaped your notice, but believe me, he was big in rural areas, small town America, and with middle-aged plus audiences, when radio was more of a chief form of entertainment. He had billboards, talk show runs, and his own talk show, long before 9/11. You were probably a teenager when he got big, and wouldn’t have listened to his show anyway. A lot of us lived through that era, and believe me, he was ubiquitous.
Well I’m not really disagreeing with this, I have already said he was known several times. He wasn’t huge until after he started attacking Bush post 9/11 and then Obama.
Then he was in the mainstream conscience. Or lamestream media as he said. That was after 9/11, and he may have said things like that before, most people never heard of it.
Do you understand what I’m saying?
It’s not that we don’t understand what you’re saying. It’s that we are proving time and time again that you’re wrong, wrong, wrong.
But you just keep repeating counter factual stuff you pulled out of your ass.
A big thank you to all who are keeping SPJ here rather than elsewhere on the board, being obstinate and willfully ignorant and deaf to the point of trolling. You have the patience of saints.
Well yes, I do live in an urban area because that is where most people live. It’s not really that he escaped my notice, he escaped most people’s notice until 9/11. That’s what I’ve been saying. He was known to a group of conservative am radio listeners with a following among them.
He was not huge and known in the zeitgeist until after 9/11. That’s what I said and that is not an idiot take as is being presented here in this pit thread.
They asked for times. For Radio.
I agree with the others that you are simply wrong about this. “Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot” came out in 1996. By 2001, definitely 2002, Fox News had become the touchstone for conservative opinion with Bill O’Reilly’s show being much bigger by then. I’m sure plenty of people still listened to Limbaugh. But the zeitgeist was driven by Fox News and at least in my age group and general social group, by The Daily Show, which went with lots of Fox News clips because again, TV and not radio.