I pit the cops who openly applauded police abuse today

I did not say any of those things. YOU are putting words in my mouth. But I would expect nothing less from someone like you, completely without honor or integrity.

So you can apologize to me now for your lies and false attributions.

Pardon me, but you appear to have Chimera confused with crucible.

I’m not going to apologise for being able to read for comprehension.

As for being without honour or integrity, I neither know nor care why you think that of me, but it’s not what the people who’s opinion matters think.

As you wish. “Reading for comprehension” does not include falsely attributing positions to other people. I will put your dishonorable ass on ignore.

And I curse you, you lying creature of ill-character.
May your friends, your family and the public
See precisely how dishonorable you are.
May the truth of who and what you are, out.

woe is me

May they indeed.

I hope that, in the unfortunate event you or your loved ones are the victims of crime, the police behave exactly as you would wish.

Well, the loofah faced son of a bitch idolizes Putin and Duterte. And he NOT the only one. He validates this behavior for them

So that means it’s not OK to “go after” and prosecute the bad ones, because that would be a lack of support? Or is that subservience? ??? Gotcha.

People are mad at the police because they will not clean their own house, because they do cover up and protect “their guys” no matter what… even up to and including frame-ups and murder.

Why support THAT?

Because the alternative is infinitely worse.

No. NO. And the alternative is not the chaos you think.
When you can’t trust the police to protect you, when they are caught on videos and their own cameras breaking the law, abusing their power and abusing people, and their Department stands behind them, I think the alternative is better — **full independent investigation, FBI intervention, and prison sentences all around, for both the perps and those who conspire to protect them - including chiefs, sheriffs, prosecutors etc etc etc. **

That’s the alternative, intervention by an outside authority or agency that has the power to MAKE them comply.

I think Steophan has made it clear. He’s a dirty cop who will go to any length to protect himself and other dirty cops.

So what then did our resident dirty cop do? Exactly what I said here, and more.

Good news all!

Trump was… joking! Ya, that’s the ticket! It was all just a funny joke! That’s it! You know, isn’t it funny when you suggest that police rough up suspects and bang their heads into doors! I mean, that’s a laugh riot! You people just have no sense of humor.

So far I am aware of two Sheriffs very recently facing the judge and jury for aiding abetting and conspiring to cover up - one in Arizona and one in California - Joe Arpaio and Lee Baca. There’s no reason that can’t include dirty commissioners, prosecutors, beat cops, etc.

That’s the “dread alternative”, arrest and conviction, conviction for those who abuse their authority.
That “thing” about chaos, blood in the streets, and zombies (whatever) is nonsense. You can come down and come down hard on bad cops, right up to the top and still preserve order. To NOT do it is a crime.

Ah, you’re a conspiracy theorist. It all becomes clear now. Those who uphold the law are undermining it. War is peace. Freedom is slavery.

Look out of your fucking window, you are not living in a dystopia, you are living in a mostly functional, well ordered country (despite the best efforts of those who elected Trump and other idiots). That you lack the imagination to see how much worse it would be without that order is, ironically enough, testament to how good you, and your country, have it.

A cop supporter is someone who unquestionably supports cops. That would inherently mean they’d support bad cops, too. Of course that’s stupid.

The alternative is not being a cop-hater. The alternative is to actually use your critical thinking on a case by case basis.

Steophan, you are a cop supporter. Even in the most egregious cases, you make up asinine excuses for cops. You ignore direct video evidence that a cop is crooked. You pretend that a trial or grand jury in some way proves that the cop didn’t do what we can see him on video doing.

You come in and say you don’t support cops roughing up criminals on taking them in, but you do support letting them get away with shooting and killing people who were not any threat to them. You see a populace that is scared of cops, and your solution is to attack them for not supporting them, rather than to have the cops fix their shit.

Rather than fighting for reform to make sure we churn out these bad cops before they become a problem, you want to continue the current system where we can see a cop murder someone on video, and still not get convicted. You pretend that “other evidence” is better than actually seeing the action right in front of you. You pretend that a cop deliberately covering up his own crime is still okay.

I can only think that you didn’t support Trump here because Trump is not a cop. Because you seem to be incapable of admitting that cops can be bad people, and thus are entitled to no more trust than absolutely anyone else. You want to continue the current system where cops are seen as potential enemies.

That’s the alternative. Getting rid of bad cops, instead of making excuses for them.

And as you cite, it’s happening.

Oh? What law is broken by not doing it? Or are you using “crime” to mean “something you don’t like”, as so many other idiots (such as Trump, Arpaio, and innumerable confused anti-governmental leftists) do?

Oh fuck off you asinine, moralising, hypocritical, basement-dwelling turnip.

Actually, that was the take I had on it. Kind of like nostalgia for the good ol’ day before liberal judges started coddling. Like he wasn’t talking about a special additional malice, just the standard “rough handling” that miscreants deserve. He’s just showing off his manliness, but only the stuff from the belch and scratch spectrum.

He normalizes what ought not to be. Bad enough.

I am saying that law, that order will NOT be threatened if we hold bad cops accountable to the law. Got it???

THE LAW says that bad cops go to jail just like everybody else. Got it?

Being a rotten cop is not upholding the law or upholding order. Covering for them is not upholding the law or upholding order. Doing that, undermines it far worse and far quicker than any “regular” criminal ever could.

Your “Those who uphold the law are undermining it. War is peace. Freedom is slavery” IS PURE BULLSHIT.

The law holds everyone accountable, including the police. If some are not accountable, then the law IS BROKEN. If someone covers up and protects bad cops THEY are breaking the law. Got it?

jesus CHRIST.

The law says bad cops get investigated, then if appropriate tried, then if found guilty of a severe enough crime sentenced to jail. I get it, you seem to want to skip a few steps, like several others here.

Law and order is not threatened by hold cops accountable, it’s strengthened by doing that. No-one here, that I’m aware of anyway, has claimed otherwise. What will threatened law and order is making it unnecessarily hard for cops to do their job, presuming them guilty based on any accusation, and insane conspiracies that all judges and lawyers are actively supporting a corrupt police force.