So I assume that the glorious People’s Republic of China, having learned that lesson, will be leaving Tibet next week or thereabouts?
Well, one hopes they also learned from the Donner Party.
Well, there’s China, which is only successful because of cheap slave labor fueling their strong military/economy and the fact that they sell their cheap crap to the Empire, and then there’s…no other successful communist country. Shouldn’t that sorta ring a bell?
I hate to ring Richard Nixon’s bell, but his opening up talks/trade with China brought China out of the 18th century and helped pave the way to the China we have today. In other words, without the influence and money of the Empire, there wouldn’t be this modern China we have now.
And while slavery was being practiced in the U.S., serfdom was still practiced in Russia, along with pogroms and no freedom of the press, either.
That’s a valid anecdote, but hardly a dispositive proof.
While I accept that the tour guide had a basis for his honestly-held opinion, and that the opinion was a rational one, it still remains an opinion. For example, I have spent many years residing more-or-less constantly within the Empire. At all times, I am able and willing to strongly condemn the Empire to anyone that asks for my opinion. I assume that you would not mandate that my opinion be accepted as conclusive truth.
For the sake of the Tibetans, I sure hope not. China and Tibet have a long history of unity, with the latter being a subset of the prior for much of its existence. Also, contrary to popular Imperial myths, Tibet was a feudal, backward cesspool of filth and ignorance prior to its most recent liberation, rather than some Disney-esque Buddhist paradise. Beijing’s rule has brought Tibet not only into the 21st century, but also into the 20th, the 19th, and perhaps even the 18th.
Iraq, on the other hand, has no relationship to the Empire, did not do anything to the Empire, and has not been made any better off thanks to your savage occupation of it. Unlike China, you do not liberate your brethren so that they can enjoy better lives; you slaughter complete strangers for the sheer hell of it.
One thing I would like to point out is that, without China, the Empire’s economy would have completely collapsed by now. You hear a lot about the national debt - who do you think is your main creditor? Instead of criticizing your saviors, you ought to be praising them for keeping your dumb asses at least moderately solvent.
Actually, if we’d never gone down the road we did with China (and other countries), we’d find ourselves in a better economic situation right now as our manufacturing base would have remained strong and we’d still be making the majority of our own products here.
That sounds exactly what your opinion on Belarus amounts to, except for the valid part.
The irony of this coming from a self-proclaimed Soviet is just painful. Unless, of course, you’ve been on a voluntary hunger strike your entire life.
Commissar, are you a member of the Communist Party USA?
There’s a difference between having a subjective opinion on something - thinking it’s good or bad - and observing the objective truth about something - whether it is an apple or an orange.
You won’t find a rational, honest Amecian who thinks that America is a communist country, but plenty of Chinese people are aware that their country is more capitalist than communist.
If you actually think that a majority of the members of this board, as a group, supported the invasion of Iraq in any way, shape or form, then you’re even sillier than your OP makes you out to be.
Anyway, how about knocking it off with the bigotry? It’s really not doing anything to effectively support your premise.
AFAIK, on the Neo-Communist Left the CPUSA is widely regarded to be nothing more than an ultra-liberal appendage of the Democratic Party. A sell-out, if you will. Methinks Commissar wouldn’t like to have anything to do with them.
You’re precisely right, kidneyfailure. The CPUSA has no heart, or balls, for that matter. For example, during the last two presidential elections, they didn’t even bother fielding a candidate, instead choosing to endorse the Democratic candidates.
Can you believe that shit?!? Lenin and the Bolsheviks must be turning in their graves. How can you call yourself a “Communist” and tell people to vote for a capitalist at the same time? Whatever happened to the good old-fashioned revolutionary, all-or-nothing, grab-the-AK-and-start-spraying, take-the-war-to-the-streets fervor? When did these so-called “Communists” start believing that elections are a good thing? These decadent, gentrified, bourgeois weaklings sicken and disgust me!
So, no, not a member.
Assuming that you have a heart, or balls, for that matter, are you a member of a party that attempts to advance Communism in the United States, and, if so, which one?
Nope. I do not belong to any such organizations because, to the best of my knowledge, there are none.
In fact, that’s somewhat depressing… One often hears about the “left wing” in US politics, but what the hell is that, anyway? The right wing has the mainstream Republicans, the retarded Southern Republicans, the even more retarded new-wave Teabaggers, and the hopelessly deluded Libertarians. The alleged left wing has, what, the Democrats? What a joke: it is essentially a party of emasculated Republicans that was unable to completely embrace capitalist fascism because it still had a shred of human decency in it. Then you have the Greens, but they’re an impotent one-trick pony. And the Imperial Communists have sold out so hard that they’ve pretty much painted caricatured Hitler mustaches on their overfed upper lips.
In short, I would love to have a party in the US that I could call my own. That does not seem likely to happen. The Empire is a capitalist bastion, and it leaves no room for dissenting opinion.
If I were you, I’d sue whoever it is that purportedly educated you in and about the United States of America. You consider yourself a soviet in America and yet you obviously do not know much of either the Communist Party USA or the Socialist Party USA.
Your accusation against me of being an imperialist is both juvenile and asinine. Juvenile because it is merely name-calling. Asinine because the United States is not an empire, something you would know had you gotten a decent education. The US is a democracy. You know the word, don’t you? After all, it seems to be quite popular with dictatorial regimes who pretend that they are governments of the people instead of the murderous dictatorships you love so much.
By the way, if there is no room for dissenting opinion in the United States, why then are you still posting condemnations of the country, its government, and its society? It seems to me that one of those communist dictatorships you love so much not only built a wall around their country but actually murdered their citizens for “succumbing to capitalist propaganda.” You wouldn’t happen to know anything about that, would you, now?
But, alas, you probably won’t be able to respond to this query of mine because, given “the Empire” “leaving no room for dissenting opinion,” you very well may be dead by now, what with all the “dissenting opinion” you’ve recently posted on this site.
Either that or you know absolutely nothing about either democracy or communism, you know absolutely nothing about world history, specifically Eastern European history, and you’ve discovered some nifty words, whose definitions you haven’t bothered to learn yet, in an old book that your mom or dad chucked into the attic after they suffered through a gloomy course in politics.
And the last option is that you’re just a troll.
In short, “Commissar” is (pick one):
[list=a][li]Incarcerated or dead due to his dissenting opinion.[/li][li]An elementary or middle/junior high school student who’s having fun typing the big words and seeing them magically appearing to the world, but yet still completely ignorant of politics, international relations, and history.[/li][*]A troll.[/list]
I’m sure the 5,000 Tibetans killed during the 1950 invasion, and later the 400-800,000 Tibetans who died during the Great Leap Forward, were greatly comforted by the thought “At least we’re being liberated by our Chinese brethren to enjoy better lives instead of being slaughtered for the hell of it.”
Please, please, please, seek out and read a book called, “Red China Blues” by Jan Wong. Her parents were Chinese nationals who left the glorious homeland. She was largely educated in the west, and lived here. But in her heart she deeply respected and admired all things Communist and Chinese. Unlike you, however, she actually went to China to participate and take her place contributing in the great Communist utopia. Her book is about her experiences there, and enormously good reading.
I should think this would be reading that was right up your alley.
I would love to have a conversation with you after you’ve read it. That would be awesome!
Oh, please, do tell us what, exactly, the peace loving Tibetan’s did to China that entitles them to overwhelm them until they are a minority in their own country, and fill their beautiful Himalayan valleys with nuclear waste? Or is it as simple as, we had to slaughter them because they were so backward, so we could force, onto them, changes they didn’t desire?