I pit the goat felching douchenozzle(s) who blew up the Boston Marathon

[Debaser]

@Blkshp

The TP official terrorist attack tally remains: 0

…and this makes ElvisL1ves oh so angry.

[marshmallow]

@Blkshp

It will be interesting to see which sterotype these guys get branded as because they plausibly have characterisitics of several.

Left is happy because they look white, right is happy because they’re Muslims. Win/win.

Also, we /pol/ now.

[John_Mace]

This should give that TV show “The Americans” a boost.

[ElvisL1ves]

@Debaser

…and this makes ElvisL1ves oh so angry.

How old are you? :dubious:

[Procrustus]

@Blkshp

No joy for the Tea Party haters either, The TP official terrorist attack tally remains: 0

Don’t worry, there are still plenty of reasons to hate the Tea Party.

[Really_Not_All_That_Bright]

@Blkshp

It will be interesting to see which sterotype these guys get branded as because they plausibly have characterisitics of several. But again, I haven’t heard any official confirmation of the their views on abortion. No joy for the Tea Party haters either, The TP official terrorist attack tally remains: 0

If you mean “Tea Party as fully branded movement beginning in 2008”, then yes. If you count all US tax protesters, then the tally is 168.

[Smeghead]

Maybe they were just a couple of stupid fucks who thought it would be neat to blow the shit out of people…without ANY political or religious motivation! That would piss everyone off equally.

[Bricker]

@Fear_Itself

What makes you think they are Muslims?

Why so desperate to deny this?

It’s true. He’s a Muslim. “Very religious,” he says of himself.

[Ludovic]

When the ricin guy turned out to be a crazy Elvis impersonator, it made me think that the chances of the bomber being exactly the sort of person to back the Tea Party as being small.

Because, while the Tea Party organization(s) are dwindling in direct influence, their members or people exactly like their members still have lots and lots of actual political power. And people who have political power don’t engage in terrorism. (Or if they do, then it isn’t classified as terrorism by the government.)

The McElvis guy bemoaned the lack of prayer in schools but also thought America engaged in wars for profit.

McVeigh was a gun nut who tolerated racism but also claimed that his views formed as a result of seeing the massive enemy casualties in the first Iraq War.

Eric Rudolph grew up among out and out racialists, and while he claimed to not be one of them, I can see how that can foster an us against them mentality and willingness to engage in militantism.

I am surprised that it apparently turned out to be a Chechen. But after the Ricin incident was made clear, I would have been surprised if it had turned out to be anyone but another lone nut.

[Gangster_Octopus]

These are two nutjobs, they are not any label other than psychotic fuckstains. They are a couple of jerkoffs. The reality is that the biggest threat is not organized terror groups, but simply lone nutjobs. Like Jared Lee Loughner or John Allen Muhammad or James Holmes or Eric Rudolph or Timothy McVeigh or Ted Kaczinsky. Their ideology is the crazy fucks and in a country of 350 million they are always going to exist.

[Hamlet]

@Bricker

Why so desperate to deny this?

It’s true. He’s a Muslim. “Very religious,” he says of himself.

And apparently thinks America is too permissive and lacking in solid values too.

We can play this identity game forever, for every tragedy that occurs in this country. When political gameplaying like this is top of mind after a tragedy, we’ve really gone too fucking far.

[ElvisL1ves]

@Gangster_Octopus

The reality is that the biggest threat is not organized terror groups, but simply lone nutjobs.

Or pairs, with a younger and more impressionable type following the older nutjob, a John Muhammad or a Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

But you’re right, the source problem is psychosis, and religious or political causes mainly provide focus for taking action. We don’t know if the Tsarnaevs were ostensibly motivated by Wahhabi Islam or Chechen nationalism or economic populism or political nihilism or something else, but you’re right, it really doesn’t matter. The true motivations are personality and psychology based.

[Tee]

I’m here because I can’t focus on anything else and gave up on getting actual work done. The pic of a T bus discharging a SWAT team is one more for the collection of things I saw but couldn’t believe. People want this fucker bad, and there’s a good chance of more people getting killed before it’s done.

[John_Mace]

The winter Olympics in 2014 will be in Russia, in the Western Caucasus. Ring a bell?

I wonder if this was some sort of practice for the big event.

[Tom_Tildrum]

ElvisL1ves, what’s led to the shift in your thinking?

From this:

@Debaser

Who knows? The person or people who would do something like this are fucking crazy.

@ElvisL1ves

That’s a common, easy way to avoid trying to understand the thinking of someone who does something horrendous. It also does the opposite of fighting ignorance. This action was done by someone for some reasons that made sense to them, and it would help us all to try to understand what that might be.

@ElvisL1ves

Dismissing someone as crazy is claiming you *can’t *know their motivations, that they don’t matter anyway, more than simply admitting you don’t. That’s the opposite of fighting ignorance.

To this:

@ElvisL1ves

But you’re right, the source problem is psychosis, and religious or political causes mainly provide focus for taking action. We don’t know if the Tsarnaevs were ostensibly motivated by Wahhabi Islam or Chechen nationalism or economic populism or political nihilism or something else, but you’re right, it really doesn’t matter. The true motivations are personality and psychology based.

[Euphonious_Polemic]

The US is lucky (in a way) because they have not had to suffer a sustained and coordinated bombing campaign. Over 600 casualtiesfrom the IRA.

27 killed yesterday in aBaghdad bombing

As horrific as this incident was, for many countries it has sadly become business as usual.

[ElvisL1ves]

@Tom_Tildrum

ElvisL1ves, what’s led to the shift in your thinking?

There hasn’t been one. Are you having trouble with the concept that psychosis is susceptible to analysis and understanding without forgetting that it is still psychosis?

[elucidator]

Today, all across our nation, our fellow citizens who are Muslim or just “look” Muslim are very likely in some danger. If you have a Deity to petition, pray for them. If not, pray for them anyway, what could it hurt?

[ElvisL1ves]

Do these guys look Muslim to you? Or to anybody else?

That said, you’re right, the Sikhs need to lie low - again.

[Gangster_Octopus]

I think I am just going to mindlessly attack people in baseball caps.