Yeah, that about sums it up. I would prefer someone else but there just wasn’t a road for them to the nomination.
Uh, no.
http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563
Incidentally Andy Martin is proud of being the king of the birthers.
The source of the Trump lie (and it was Trump the one that blamed Hillary in the recent contest) is actually based on a supporter of Clinton against Obama that resent a chain mail that supported the rumor about the birth place of Obama. As others investigated there was no evidence that showed any involvement of Clinton with the nutty supporter. As Trump is more likely to double down and lie about the real origins of the birther lie I guess I can count on you voting for Hillary then.
When Hillary first came to the national stage in 1992, I did not like her. I was very against her in fact.
The reason for this is because I was still a teenager living in an ultra-conservative household. Liberals were evil, and the Clintons were satan incarnate. This was just accepted knowledge in my house. I was dumbfounded by how Clinton won, even though he was obviously evil. I remember my mother arguing with her mother (who was much more liberal) about how the clintons had Vince Foster killed, and on and on and on. I came to the conclusion that nothing good could possibly come from them.
In 1996, I cast my first vote, and it was for Dole. I was upset when Clinton won.
By 2000, I had become disillusioned enough w the republican party (largely with their constant hearings about clinton’s affairs), that I wasn’t about to vote for Bush, but I hadn’t come along enough to see Gore, the liberal, as a viable candidate for the future. That year, I voted for Dave Barry. (I don’t live in Florida, or I would feel regret at this point over wasting my vote.)
As I have learned more about the history of the clintons over the next decade, I realized that more and more of the reasons that I didn’t like them were just made up lies, distortions or exaggerations.
By 2008, I was an enthusiastic Clinton supporter, though I supported Obama nearly as enthusiastically when he won the primary. (My dream ticket was Clinton/Obama, though I do realize that that would have been impractical.)
This year, I did actually vote for sanders in the primary, but because I felt that that was the best way to use my voice to shift the conversation a bit further to the left. I would have voted for him as president had he won, but I was actually hoping for a clinton victory.
Come November, I will be very happy to cast my vote for clinton, who I feel is one of the best qualified and experienced (and vetted) candidates for the job who has ever run.
Is she my first choice, well, no, I am. But I didn’t run, so I will vote for her.
Thanks for sharing your story k9bfriender! Very interesting.
I am going to unabashedly steal this line, the next time this comes up. 
Many of the irrational haters of Hillary do have 90+ IQs — they’re not going to vote for Trump. Here’s one imbecile who apparently is going to vote for the short-fingered fraudster … amd offers no excuse beyond his irrational hatred:
Please explain your irrational hatred, Lumpy. Or do you just detest her? abominate her? loathe her?
Absolutely not true.
No worse than average. Actually, demonstrably less than average, and much less than Trump.
Well, first of all you’re being irrational in making Hillary’s flaws out to be much worse than they are, while simultaneously underrating those of Trump, which are demonstrably much more severe.
Speaking of liars, a) she’s not a felon, and b) You’ve lied more times than she has, you worthless sack.
Even if true, do you hate all liars and (non-convicted) felons? I can see those beliefs (misunderstandings?) lead you to vote for Jeb Bush or Martin O’Malley over Mrs. Clinton, but fucking Trump?
Clinton can be a fine President even if she has lied about some things in the past (who hasn’t?), and even if she had actually committed some felony (she hasn’t). Trump, on the other hand, can’t.
I don’t like her dishonesty, secrecy, political views, personality, face, or her voice. Other that that she’s ok.
Cite? Tell me exactly what felony she had been convicted of? Shit, tell me one she has been indicted for. Oh, you can’t, because she hasn’t.
My thinking is ,either she has been innocent of all the things she had been accused of, and investigated for, over the last 25 years, or she is smarter than 25 years worth of Republicans doing the investigating. Either way, that is the kind of person I want in the White House.
<Princess Bride> You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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The fact that you’re lying, while indignantly calling her a liar, is pretty impressive.
Troll.
He did the same thing in the “Trump voters: explain yourselves” thread.
He likes to post outrageously false shit and then run away like the gutless coward he is.
She’s certainly a liar.
She’s not a felon.
Are you suggesting that a liar cannot earn your vote for President?
For which candidate do you plan on voting this year?
“Look around you, we’re all liars here, and every one of us is better than you.”
Littlefinger to Sansa Stark, GoT
I’m bumping this thread for two reasons.
(1) To give more people a chance to read, in #1, Sen. Clinton’s actual words on her 2002 vote — the ignorance on this matter is huge, even here at the Dope.
(2) To call attention to a recent news story: In Washington Pizzeria Attack, Fake News Brought Real Guns.
North Carolina resident Edgar M. Welch was so upset when he learned that Hillary Clinton was running a child sex ring out of a Washington D.C. pizza shop that he brought his AR-15 assault rife to the pizza shop to free the kids. Naturally he couldn’t contact the Washington police: as stooges of the Hateful Hillary they were obviously in on it. North Carolina, recall, was a state Hillary was expected to win but lost when people too stupid to respond to a pollster nevertheless showed up in their diapers on Election Day to draw an X with their crayon and vote against this witch running a child sex ring.
One would like to eavesdrop on the Kremlin gremlins who concocted these stories to put their boy in power.
“Isn’t that a little much? Fantasies like that will reduce the credibility of our whole campaign!”
“Clicks are clicks, Comrade Daddy-O. Anyway, you just don’t understand how stupid these overfed Americans are. And some Democrat Congressmen eat pizza; maybe we’ll kill (ha ha) two birds with one stone!”
According to this page, Michael Flynn, our new National Security Adviser, and his son and chief of staff Michael Jr. have doubled down on the Pizzeria-used-by-Hillary-to-torture-and-traffic-children story, the former tweetin a link to this page.
Is this true? The tweeterer is “@GenFlynn” not “@theReal_GenFlynn.” Or is true but “forgiveable” since the General didn’t mention “Pizza”? His son did though:
[QUOTE=Michael G Flynn🇺🇸 @mflynnJR]
Until #Pizzagate proven to be false, it’ll remain a story. The left seems to forget #PodestaEmails and the many “coincidences” tied to it. x.com
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The Washington Post doesn’t think MF’s tweet was about “pizza-gate”.
Pence was just on MSNBC claiming MF’s son has nothing to do with the transition team, but we’ll see. He is, or was, supposedly his dad’s Chief of Staff. I’d like to see someone outside the Trump bubble to confirm this (or not).
Are there any?