I sick of ralph124c and his stupidity.

[Rubystreak]

First of all, I have to say, I am in complete agreement with Sleeps With Butterflies. She has been a voice of sanity here. I personally hate it when people threaten to beat up (or even worse, have their boyfriend beat up) someone who says something mean to the womenfolk. What the fuck are we, cave men? Even though he’s suspended (which is bullshit, btw), mshar won this thread lock, stock, and barrel because he got his target to froth at the mouth and get others to do the same. You handed him your chain and boy, did he pull it.

@SmartAleq

It would be lovely to live a life serenely free of all random violence and the need to deal with it, but that’s not what my life’s been like and I have perhaps a more casual attitude toward taking it out to the parking lot than some others do.

How is an insult from an anonymous stranger on a message board in any way equivalent to random violence? It’s words, on a screen. They cannot possibly hurt you in any way unless you let them. That’s why threats of violence seem so ridiculous. No doubt if this were real life, and the person were in front of you, and there was menacing physical behavior or actually something to fear, it would be different, and you might feel the need for such posturing. In this situation? There’s absolutely no reason to talk about teeth on the floor. It’s idiotic because it’s just MORE words on the screen. You aren’t going to kick anyone’s ass. So why make the threat? What is the point of it? Does it make you feel better? Better than just turning off the computer and going outside to get some fresh air would?

In the circles I travel in shooting off your mouth too much to the wrong person at the wrong time can have definite physical sequelae and anybody who insists on their right to be obnoxious free of consequences soon discovers there’s a whole 'nother world out there. People learn how to be polite or they learn to get the fuck out, simple rules there.

He does have the right to be obnoxious without bodily harm. As much as you might hate it, you don’t have the right to knock his teeth out for calling you ugly. Also, it makes you look insecure, like you’re actually worried that you’re ugly, or about what he thinks. Laughing it off and walking away seems like a much better and more apropos response, unless his comments to you are accompanied by a material threat, which they manifestly are not here.

So my question then is–okay, somebody gets verbally abusive for no reason to you or to your loved one, then decides you’re an easy mark because you won’t fight back, then decides to go ahead and beat the holy fuck out of you–at what point would you be willing to forego your serene detachment and either do your level best to put the asshole in/on the ground or allow a bystander to do so?

Wow. Hyperbolic and hysterical much? Your analogy fails because mshar didn’t beat the holy fuck out of anyone. He said some mean, mean things on the internet. Not a comparable situation, and your characterization of Sleeps With Butterflies’ stance here is a straw man of the highest order, and kind of embarrassing to read, really.

And I didn’t say RudeFuck is gay, I just said I suspect he faps to naked guys with stiffies.

I guess taking the high road is totally out the question, eh?

If you think what I already said to him is way outta line all I have to say is that maybe the Pit isn’t the best place for you and I have a whole lot more invective than that I could pull out.

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Obviously you and AT are in the Pit but couldn’t handle mshar’s invective and had to go threaten violence. Maybe the Pit isn’t right for you either.

[hajario]

If your girlfriend can castrate a man with one swipe, why do you even need a lead pipe?

[Q.E.D]

@hajario

If your girlfriend can castrate a man with one swipe, why do you even need a lead pipe?

For when he forgets her birthday.

[Nancarrow]

@Giraffe

I was actually in Anal Kiddies 2. I was the one with the giant lollipop and the pained look.

Oh great, now I have to trawl through my entire Anal Kiddies Collectors’ Edition looking for mod blackmail material. It’s gonna be a looong night.

What colour was the lollipop?

[Cervaise]

Brown, obviously.

[gonzomax]

Your mamas so fat.
Well that would not fly because that is a childish insult. So are remarks about girlfriends and whatevers. They do not know your girlfriend . If someone insults her they simply tell much about themselves, since they do not know your girlfriend they are just being childish.AT should ignore it and laugh at an immature attempt to get him pissed. He should never actually get mad. Wave it away and go on. It just does not matter. I have huge difficulty understanding how someone 6 states away can get your goat through electrons on a video tube. Visualize yourself patting him on the head and saying “nice try kid”. Then figuratively walk away.

[MrDibble]

Just FYI, there’s an ATMB thread on the “suspended for stuff subsequently edited out” issue.

[HongKongFooey]

@MrDibble

Just FYI, there’s an ATMB thread on the “suspended for stuff subsequently edited out” issue.

Really? I was reading it and thinking it looked more like a pit thread

[ivan_astikov]

@MrDibble

Just FYI, there’s an ATMB thread on the “suspended for stuff subsequently edited out” issue.

I don’t think we can cuss and fart in there though, can we? I much prefer the relaxed informality of The Pit.

[Euthanasiast]

@ralph124c

For a country with only two exports (codfish and bottled water), this is serious.

I haven’t slept much in the past few days, so forgive me, but what about the above is an improper use of parenthesis?

[HongKongFooey]

I think that was meant to be an example of his posting erroneous information, not misuse of parentheses. The issue with the parentheses was one that people put up with for a long time but he’s learned to use them. BTW, you got some catchin’ up to do in this thread.

[FinnAgain]

Luckily, posters are still free to claim that “Jews control US foreign policy”, but the dreaded “sideways vagina” will land you a suspension

Ah well.

[XT]

Sleep is overrated…

-XT

[Really_Not_All_That_Bright]

@FinnAgain

Luckily, posters are still free to claim that “Jews control US foreign policy”, but the dreaded “sideways vagina” will land you a suspension

Ah well.

What, exactly, is offensive about the first statement, leaving aside whether it’s factually accurate?

[XT]

Well, what’s so offensive about saying ‘hispanics are lazy’ or ‘black steal’? Aside from if it’s ‘factually accurate’ of course?

-XT

[FinnAgain]

@Really_Not_All_That_Bright

What, exactly, is offensive about the first statement, leaving aside whether it’s factually accurate?

You’re serious?
What’s offensive about claiming that an ethnic cabal has taken over a government’s function, using it for their own purposes and disenfranchising everybody else in the nation? When that same, exact, slur has been used for centuries to justify and rationalize countless atrocities from pogroms to the Holocaust itself?
A simple rule of thumb is: if your political theory is indistinguishable from David Duke’s claims about Jews, or might be taken out of the Protocols, it’s some bad shit.

Claiming that Jews secretly bend the will of nations to their own ends is straight out of Der Sturmer. As are claims that Jews control the global financial markets. Or are behind the ‘culture wars’, or what have you. A few posters here would be much happier talking about their judeophobia on st-rm-fr-nt where people can agree with them and talk about all the nefarious control that Jews wield over others. I’d wager that more than one is only an alcohol fueled night away from Mel Gibsonland. And I doubt that many folks who claim that Jews control the US government are honestly unaware of that fact. Once someone gets to the point of saying, in essence “I don’t agree with US foreign policy, it’s fucked up and it’s all the fault of secret machinations of Jews!” Well…

Just like saying “Ah, those black people and their fried chicken” isn’t exactly offense-free and only an idiot would think it was.

The added fact that the slur about Jewish control of the US government is a paranoid lie doesn’t help matters, either.

On preview, what XT said.

[Really_Not_All_That_Bright]

@xtisme

Well, what’s so offensive about saying ‘hispanics are lazy’ or ‘black steal’? Aside from if it’s ‘factually accurate’ of course?

-XT

Both are negative statements.

“Jews control US foreign policy” is not, unless you’re extracting that statement from some larger statement about how Jews control the media and the UN and are out to get us or somesuch.

Claiming that Jews secretly bend the will of nations to their own ends is straight out of Der Sturmer. As are claims that Jews control the global financial markets. Or are behind the ‘culture wars’, or what have you. A few posters here would be much happier talking about their judeophobia on st-rm-fr-nt where people can agree with them and talk about all the nefarious control that Jews wield over others. I’d wager that more than one is only an alcohol fueled night away from Mel Gibsonland. And I doubt that many folks who claim that Jews control the US government are honestly unaware of that fact. Once someone gets to the point of saying, in essence “I don’t agree with US foreign policy, it’s fucked up and it’s all the fault of secret machinations of Jews!” Well…

You’re reading a lot into that statement that isn’t necessarily there. Suggesting that Jews control US foreign policy does not mean you disagree with US foreign policy, or that Jewish control of foreign policy is a bad thing.

The issue is what the basis for the statement is- if it’s “Mossad is running the State Department”, then yes, we’re probably talking about anti-Semitism. If the basis is “Jews are much more likely to vote than the general public and are much more political active in general” then we’re probably not.

[Really_Not_All_That_Bright]

@FinnAgain

Just like saying “Ah, those black people and their fried chicken” isn’t exactly offense-free and only an idiot would think it was.

Actually, that’s a really good argument. Parallel and point taken, especially in the context of my “it isn’t a negative statement” assertion above.

[XT]

@Really Not All That Bright

“Jews control US foreign policy” is not, unless you’re extracting that statement from some larger statement about how Jews control the media and the UN and are out to get us or somesuch.

I disagree…it most certainly IS a negative statement and it reflects the paranoia and distrust people, especially Europeans, hold towards Jewish people. It’s exactly the same kind of stereotype as my other examples.

-XT

[Jackmannii]

@xtisme

Well, what’s so offensive about saying ‘hispanics are lazy’ or ‘black(s) steal’? Aside from if it’s ‘factually accurate’ of course?

But that’s different.

It’s OK to demean or cast suspicion on Jews, because, well, because they control US foreign policy and the media and are international financiers, plus I personally own 76 Subway bonus points, good for a six-inch sub and maybe a macadamia nut cookie as well.

I rulz.