That fucking sucks. I don’t think things that get edited out should be held against one officially. Informally, yes, we, as a community, all know he posted it and can use that info to inform our opinions, but I think the mods shouldn’t act on stuff like that. Clearly he thought better of it afterwards, and deleted it. Again, bad call.
Fuck it, I’m gonna cash this in.
mshar may have committed a net faux pas in bringing an ‘innocent’ into an argument, but Argent Tower’s sin of threatening violence to a board member should be unforgivable. Contrary to Smart Alec’s opinion, nothing said on a message-board warrants a threat of violence. If these exchanges were made in the physical world, maybe they would have led to violence( most likely initiated by AT and SA!), but here on the Dope, the keypad is supposedly mightier than the knuckleduster, and should be seen to be so. Is this a useful enough contribution for you, AT?
And you said you stink at pittings. :dubious:
CMC +fnord!
That’s what preview is for. How long do ya think the PTB will put up with folks posting shit that they should know crosses the not quite invisible line and then editing it out? That IMHO is abusing the edit privilege, using it like that shouldn’t get you suspended, it should get your ass banned.
This is (probably) exactly why we didn’t have the option of editing posts ('till recently) and exactly why we’ll lose it (if we ever do).
- Last edited by crowmanyclouds; 10-06-2008 at at 5:32 AM. Reason: Removed copyrighted, false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, threatening, invasion of a person’s privacy, and violative of U.S. law stuff, 3 direct links to illegal pornography, 7 death threats (2 mods, 4 members, 1 guest), and complete instructions on how to crash the boards servers.
Ya know, basically broke ALL the rules in one post. But since I edited it all that out, should it count?*
Or what? You’ll get your girlfriend to beat him up? You had a chance to take the high road and by all indications you didn’t even consider it. The original shot at your girlfriend (as a side note, I don’t find her particularly attractive, either) was childish and vapid, certainly. A grown-up would’ve shrugged or laughed it off. Instead, you’re an idiot who jumps into mudpiles with idiots, and proud of yourself for doing so and assuming that all right-thinking people would do the same.
p.s. I sometimes post to the snarkpit, under my real name.
Damn this stinks. **Mshar **did not deserve to be suspended for the reason given. He thought better of it and removed. It was not like he changed it after someone called him for it, he thought better of it himself.
I think he acted stupid and juvenile in this thread and I believe he made a false charge about Mob mentality. But, he did not deserve suspension for this one thread. Though he thought better of, it is not as if **AT **took the high road in response.
I’m reasonably sure ralph124c is not reading this anymore, but in case you are I hope you try a little fact checking in the future. You managed to learn how to use the shift keys to make ( ), now maybe you can learn how to use Google or some other tool to verify what you post.
Jim
Agreed. And if they are going to suspend him, they should also suspend AT for suggesting a violent response to the comments was warranted. What’s good for the goose, and all.
Can someone explain to me how a sideways vagina is a racial slur against Asians? I’m sure I should be offended, but I just don’t get it.
There’s a “rumor” among very young (ie. old enough to know what a vagina is, not really old enough to know what to do with one) schoolboys that Chinese or Japanese women/girls have sideways vaginas- ie., a left-to-right positioning.
I have no idea where it came from or who would be dumb enough to believe it, but it persists as a sort of running joke among some adults.
It’s the kind of thing you can joke about if you’re east Asian- I know a bunch of Korean and Chinese chicks who do, and one even uses it as her user name for websites.
Fascinating, thanks for the education. Learn something new every day.
I wouldn’t say beaten with a bat ugly, but gorgeous is not exactly accurate.
Have at it. I don’t really care. If you feel better go for it.
I am pretty non violent. If someone said something about my wife ,it would not be about her at all. It would just reveal something about them. I would laugh at the childish attempt. I would never get angry. But thats me.
If you and XT get happy making remarks about me and feel better after, I have achieved some purpose. Go for it.
You are not the first one, AT - my family has been made fun of, when I posted some pictures, long ago. I was pretty angry and offended, but it’s not like this board is some high arbiter of morality. People always say the Dope is this and the Dope is that but it’s just comprised of people, after all, with lots of flaws.
Making fun of my family? Calling them…what was it now, I think it was “fat” (true for some of them) and “immigrants” (well - yeah, so am I) and something else insulting to Indians? Well, at least I have a family. It’s dysfunctional but there it is. I felt the same way - make fun of me all you like, not them, as they can’t answer back.
I am not going to scold you for your response; it’s been done plenty. But it would do you well to remember him saying your girlfriend is unattractive doesn’t make her unattractive - except to him. I just wanted to let you know it’s happened before, and hell, it’ll happen again.
Just very tired; it was after 1:00 AM. I don’t drink at all.
And his later wishing death on the Snarkpit. Since Argent wasn’t warned about them because of his provocation by mshar, now that mshar is suspended, I suggest they even things up by registering an official warning against Argent Towers for the over the line things he’s posted in this thread.
Then why have an edit feature at all.
I don’t know, but however long it is, I should hope it started with warnings, not suspensions.
For repeated violations, I can maybe see this, but for one? Really?
I use edit, but if it goes won’t miss it much, but that’s not the point. What’s next, banning people for things they say in PM?
I think someone wanted to send a message about the original remark, but by now it was too late, as admonishments were already issued about that. So this is what gets done instead. I do not like the precedent.
FTR, I don’t like what mshar said and don’t particularly care to defend him over it, it’s more the precedent set I want to have overturned.
I agree; it seems really silly to me to suspend someone for something you can’t even point to now. Linking to the post in question that has the slur edited out of it is ridiculous. He got it; he fixed his error. If the Powers That Be are going to allow us a five minute window to reconsider our sins, I would suggest that they only rule on what stands after those five minutes are over.
I really agree with this.
The difference between your scenerio and what happened here is that dipshit said that about the girlfriend on the internet. There was no verbal abuse to the girl. As far as we know she hasn’t even read the comment. So really, whose honor is Argent defending? Additionally, dipshit is entitled to his opinion, as harsh as it is. **Argent Towers **typed out a post, more than one, wishing bodily harm on others because they didn’t agree with him. And that’s acceptable? :rolleyes:
Lately, it just seems **Argent Towers **doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up. His ‘opps, sorry’ and ‘they aren’t members’ doesn’t cut it. **Mshar **at least had the good sense to edit his drivel.
It would be my opinion–not that it matters–that AT should be banned for threatening death upon another poster, an SDMB no-no that should not be afforded a warning.
Mshar certainly should NOT have been suspended for editing out the racial slur. He did so of his own accord and not after admonishment by any poster(s) or moderator. Good job, [del]Message Board Thought Police[/del], mods!