Don’t, Sharkey! Worm Tongue will stab you in the back!
Which leads to thoughts of a thread on inappropriate use of cultural references, as you’re equating gonzomax with Frodo.
But you DID say that you would commit violence. You spoke for yourself and your boyfriend. You know, teeth on the floor in a microsecond. You also said any guy who wouldn’t do it would be a wuss, as if physical violence in response to a verbal insult is a basis for manhood. It wasn’t just the initial post either, in back to back #136 and #137 you and AT long to be somewhere in person where you two could tag team the little troll. Adorable.
Hell, let’s just replay your quote:
No, normal and rational human beings who are in control of their bodies and minds don’t DO that for their loved ones. Not over someone saying that someone is ugly. So I’m sorry if you think I’m being “disingenous at best” but I’d laugh at someone who said something like that to me, not want to hit them… and I’m talking in person, let alone on a messageboard.
Also, your insinuation that the person is gay because he doesn’t find AT’s girlfriend attractive? Stupid and childish. Someone else said he doesn’t think she’s attractive either, is he gay? If we’re going to play childish games then I guess that makes you a lesbian because apparently you’re hot for her. Har har har. See how stupid that looks? yeah.
Could we stop with this whole game of “I’m so serenely in control of myself, unlike you violent and impulsive brutes, that I would never even consider hitting someone and I can’t believe you savages are speaking of such things!” It smacks of holier-than-thou-ism. Stop trying to scrape for a piece of moral high ground.
I said what I said in the heat of the moment. I’m not still fantasizing about smashing the guy’s teeth in. I’m not sitting here sharpening an ax with his name on it. I love my freedom to much to wind up with assault charges over something like this.
However, there are people who are not so conservative, and mshar might want to take that into consideration next time he’s at a bar or something, if he speaks to people in person the way he did here. Which I highly doubt, because the internet offers a lot of safety for the trash-talker who wouldn’t risk saying the same things to a real live person.
The irony, it BURNS!
I’ve been on your side throughout this thread but you really have to realize that you’re coming across as Internet Tough Guy yourself. I know you want to defend your GF and I commend you for that, but the veiled suggestions of violence are not helping you. You were wronged, absolutely, most of us agree with that, but there’s a lot to be said for taking the moral high ground here. Autolycus urged for calm way back in the thread and was right, that was the point to shut off the tough talk and let mshar form his own noose.
Well, sorry I disappointed you there, Sleeps With Butterflies, but that’s why there’s vanilla AND chocolate. It would be lovely to live a life serenely free of all random violence and the need to deal with it, but that’s not what my life’s been like and I have perhaps a more casual attitude toward taking it out to the parking lot than some others do. In the circles I travel in shooting off your mouth too much to the wrong person at the wrong time can have definite physical sequelae and anybody who insists on their right to be obnoxious free of consequences soon discovers there’s a whole 'nother world out there. People learn how to be polite or they learn to get the fuck out, simple rules there.
If in your world all is puppies and butterflies and even the harshest word has no more consequence than a tear or a quivering lip that’s great and all, but it’s a tiny bit nearsighted to insist that that’s the only way there is. It’s not, and I submit that in the vast majority of cultures you’d find that it’s pretty easy to get your face creatively rearranged due to insufficient politesse.
So my question then is–okay, somebody gets verbally abusive for no reason to you or to your loved one, then decides you’re an easy mark because you won’t fight back, then decides to go ahead and beat the holy fuck out of you–at what point would you be willing to forego your serene detachment and either do your level best to put the asshole in/on the ground or allow a bystander to do so? Me, I’m not willing to take another beating unanswered so I’m pretty upfront about getting in an asshole’s face when they start talking shit, and usually they back right the hell down and usually we can agree to disagree as long as everybody’s polite about it. Sure, I might still get beat but I can guarantee I won’t be the only one hurting afterward and that’s good enough for me.
Unless your answer to my above question is that you’d be all Gandhi to the end and die rather than compromise your principles of nonviolence I say we’re all just on a continuum and you have no moral high ground because your tipping point is closer to one end than mine is to the other.
And I didn’t say RudeFuck is gay, I just said I suspect he faps to naked guys with stiffies. Seemed reasonable to me since he decided on no basis whatsoever that I’m morbidly obese and like Cheetohs–neither one of which is the case, just for the record. I like insulting the smarmy, chickenshit little fuck and I’ll do it again if he gets up in my face again. If you think what I already said to him is way outta line all I have to say is that maybe the Pit isn’t the best place for you and I have a whole lot more invective than that I could pull out. I save the good stuff for the worthy opponents, though.
And besides, AT’s girlfriend is hot and I’d probably do her if her smarts and attitude matched her face–I like Asian chicks. No offense there, AT!
The fact remains that you made a physical threat on someone based on an insult of your girlfriend on a message board. You then went on to wish the entire Snarkpit was gassed to death based on…well, I’m still not sure. Because they don’t like you? Boo fucking hoo. Now, if someone did that to my girlfriend IRL, I’d be sorely tempted to do what you threatened, even if I didn’t follow up on it. But some random dickhead on a message board? Who gives a shit? It would be one thing if mshar253 had threatened her or you, but he didn’t even do that. And your thoughts on the Snarkpit are so beyond a reasonable response that they’re not even worth discussing.
Considering what you’ve said in this thread, I’d be more worried about what would happen to you than him.
Why don’t you stop trying to goad me? Just stop it, already. I’m sure you want to have the last word and put me in my place for saying all the awful nasty things I said, now that this thread has calmed down and the torrent of people trashing mshar has subsided and you think this would be a great opportunity to get one last dig in at me and make you feel like a big man. Just stop. I don’t give a shit what you think.
Obviously, you do or you’d shut up.
This isn’t a logical, or typical, progression whether you’re in a tough neighbourhood or not. You’re describing someone gunning for a fight and Sleeps With Butterflies is merely describing a more typical situation where someone is rude or insensitive and it’s best to ignore them or shrug it off. She’ll correct me if I’m wrong I hope, but I picture her scenario more as dealing with a loudmouthed drunk than a thug in an alley. I realize your point is more that different people have different thresholds of response though and I agree with that; I just don’t think the scenarios you’re both describing are quite the same.
You might be surprised how many loudmouth drunks turn into thugs.
I have reported this entire thread to the mods. We shouldn’t have interesting flamefests on weekends when I don’t have time to surf at leisure.
For someone claiming the moral high ground about the use of racial slurs, using “cunt” is not quite the right thing to do. FYC. (and I do use “retarded” and “cunt” on the internets, I just try to avoid using them in the same sentence where I am flaming someone for using the other)
Did you really not understand what he was saying in that post?
The Roman trash collection thread is one of the threads I have enjoyed most since my return to the dope.
I want to agree with you. But. I have no idea of the circumstances of the time when he posted the first picture, and from my ignorance I am going to say that he was right to post it. We post a lot about ourselves all the time.
Now, if the problem is “some dude is making fun of my gf on the board”, posting more pics of her is certainly not the solution. You might get some polite "oh, she is cute"s, but that hardly takes away the original insult and it is a provocation for the original jerk to make even more fun of her.
I am sure that if the lady in question were reading this thread, she wouldn’t have voted for posting more pics of her here. Bit of a guess from me.
Anyways, Argent, I think you already know this but you were way over the top. I also think that you are putting too much stock on the opinion of other people (and notice I am not saying the opinion of strangers over the internet).
Next time you are out on the street, take a look at every married woman you see walking down the street. Do you find them all smoking hot? Some guy does, even if you don’t. Same for your drawings, your opinions and everything else you have or create. Everybody has an opinion and some chose stupid ways of expressing them. Choose what opinions you need to react to.
No, I agree it happens; I’m just saying most of the time you can deal with these types without fighting them and that arguing fuels them. There are definitely times where SmartAleq’s approach is best. I don’t, however, think a rude comment about your girlfriend is one of them even if it does piss you off. Usually the loudmouthed jerks just want attention, they’re like trolls that way and should be dealt with the same way, IMO.
Well, yah, that was kind of what I’ve been on about this whole time–whereas most interactions on a message board are more the dumb drunk in the bar mouthing off before falling face first into a puddle of his own drool, the situation RudeFuck touched off with his nasty little trollmouth was a lot more like the crazy fuck in the alley–I think I said exactly as much somewhere but my posts have been kinda lengthy here and I ain’t going back to get the exact quote. I’ve been really upfront that casual snottiness/rudeness doesn’t warrant the instant death treatment and I was trying to point out that some of us are a little more on the hair trigger due to living in situations where there are more crazy fucks than sloppy drunks.
It seemed to me that SWB was taking a position more akin to “violence is NEVER the answer” than my own perception, which is that violence isn’t fun but it’s a fact of life and that it’s best to be prepared with your own response in case it jumps up in front of you. AT, SWB and I all occupy different points on the continuum, but none of these points is “right” or “wrong,” merely “appropriate” or “inappropriate” to the current situation, whatever that might be. My position in this instance is that RudeFuck needed taking down about twenty notches–I think AT was looking more at fifty whereas SWB seemed to be at about minus forty. I see this as way more an issue of calibration than a moral one–mileage seems to vary on this, though.
The poster didn’t piss me off, and I like Canada. Let’s not bash Canada thanks.
I was just making the point by example that just because you provide a piece of data such as a picture or a location field doesn’t justify whatever assholish thing someone might use it for. Enable sure, justify no.
I mean not wearing a cup enables you to cause me a lot of pain, but it wouldn’t justify you hitting my testicals with a hammer.
I need justification for that? Damn, there goes my plans for next Saturday 
SmartAleq - what you’re saying makes sense, I didn’t quite get it from your previous posts. I think you nailed the continuum fairly well also.
Except that I took no such position. I stated that his reaction (and yours) was way over the top for the comment made. Physical violence for calling someone ugly is ridiculous and regardless of what you’re saying now, you were advocating it earlier. You even said a man who wouldn’t fight someone for that is a wuss.
Well now, this certainly paints a picture of your world, doesn’t it? Perhaps you may want to reconsider those circles that you travel in. Life doesn’t have to resemble an episode of “Cops.”
Oh please. I didn’t insist that was the only way there is. Do you always twist things so much? If me believing that you should be able to let an insult roll off your back means that you think I’m living in a land of puppies and butterflies then so be it. And please spare me another explanation of how taking it leads to easy marks which leads to beatings and my death in a Gandhi-like manner. Most of us seem to be able to get around in the world just fine without finding ourselves beaten within an inch of our lives over trivial things. If things like that happen a lot in your corner of the world, then perhaps it’s time to think about where things went so tragically wrong for you.
On to the more important stuff here, from Ms. Naivati 2008: what is the Snark/Snack Pit, what is the significants of a sideways vagina, and condidering that I ended up preferring that I hadn’t learned how a woman could urinate on to here town face, do I really want to know? Or should I just give the stuff up? It’s not like I drink it anyway. I really don’t like the taste.
bolding mine.
Holy shit! Post drunk much?
mShar is suspended? I thought he didn’t break any rules. 