The burden of proof is on the person making the extraordinary claim. You claim there is life after death; it is up to you to prove it exists. I don’t have to prove anything.
It’s a personal insult and violation of board rules.
So we should just accept your beliefs by default?
I have no beliefs about life after death.
I did precisely that in post 74. Again, i’m an atheist.
Would it be possible for you to address my point on your Leviticus cite? I assumed when you asked me to repeat what it was, it was because you were intending to respond to it.
I’ll also repeat again, sincerely, that I am an atheist who has deliberately and with an open heart and mind sought God. Is there anything that I could say to you that would convince you that I truly mean what I say there?
Because it’s the most unlikely thing he’s ever seen? This thread itself tells the answer. God doesn’t heal severed limbs. He doesn’t regrow eyes. He doesn’t replace burned skin. He doesn’t cure beheadings. He doesn’t allow a person’s heart to be ripped out and for them to survive until a transplant is available.
Those would be miracles. Because they are things that don’t happen. People do have cancer stop randomly. They make it through strokes with minimal damage. They sometimes get better from a chronic condition. Miracles need to be miraculous.
It would be harder if Christian arguments weren’t so universally terrible.
I don’t know for a fact if there is no life after death. But it’s almost certain. You are your brain. Your brain creates your consciousness. That is to say, you don’t have a soul. This is observable, when you take drugs, it alters your consciousness. If your consciousness were an energy field, drugs wouldn’t modify it.
In addition to chemical changes, physical changes can permanently alter your consciousness. Damage to your brain can make you into a liar, can make you violent, can remove the concept of vision from you. Not just the ability to see, but the visual components from your memories.
You are your brain. And you are created by the functioning of your brain. When your brain is damaged, you become damaged. You lose pieces of you. Why would you think that when you die, and your brain isn’t just damaged, but destroyed, that your consciousness would survive? Unlikely.
And you, as the person making the claim of life after death, are the one with the burden of evidence.
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No, it wasn’t. It was an observation based on the nature of your handling of counter-arguments and continued posting behaviour ITT. It wasn’t even meant in a really mean spirited way, just an impatient enjoinder to modify your behaviour, or at least examine it and wonder what you’re trying to achieve here.
But do report me, see how that goes for you.
Or would you prefer to wrap yourself in the certitude that it was a personal attack but not risk testing it by asking a mod ? Either way’s fine by me.
I don’t plan on rejecting it. But I’m fairly confident you don’t have any evidence. Because you are exactly like the other five hundred theists who thought they had evidence. They never do.
Satan doesn’t exist. He’s an imaginary character that bronze-age primitives living in a desert made up.
Jesus has no light. If he existed, he was just a dude some guys nailed to a tree.
Before you get upset, both those things I just said, about Jesus and Satan, have as much evidence as your beliefs. But my comments violate no observed physical law. So why do you believe in your supernatural story when mine is much more plausible?
Have you ever agreed with one theist?
Have you ever answered a question?
I agree with a lot of theists. I think murder is bad. I think stealing is bad. I think casual sex is bad (from my point of view, I don’t begrudge it of others), I think the golden rule is a good idea.
But none of things are ideas that require religion. Humans understand not to murder and steal because we’re a social animal that lived in family groups.
Now do I think the world would be better without religion? Certainly. Some people might be worse off, but in total, I think the world would be better.
Well the moderator is obviously atheist so I wouldn’t expect any action. I just want a civilized debate. Sadly, it’s impossible with atheists.
When were you planning to start?
You want an atheist world? See how wonderful life is in China then. at the very least there would be constant bickering over laws of morality. Who is to say your idea of morality is more right than another person?
Suicide rate would go through the roof too. Funny, I’ve never heard of a dog commiting suicide.
I haven’t attacked you. And I’ve answered your questions while you evade mine.
Not that I agree that you’ve been attacked.
When are you?
You explained nothing and answered nothing. Hollow responses. Waste of time.
This is a very funny thread.
I am an atheist. I have not committed suicide. My dog is a theist. He has not, either. What does that prove?
You started this hot mess. Once again, the burden is on you. You don’t seem to understand what evidence is, or what constitutes debate. Up until now, you have been witnessing.
Why are you here?
You think we are just a bunch of close-mined atheists that will automatically dismiss any evidence you might bring forward, and it seems that you have believed this from the beginning, so why are you here?
What you want isn’t a debate. I’m not sure what it is, but it’s not a debate.