Thanks for being honest. I hope you do some work on yourself and evaluate the fact that you thought it was right to criticize a guy who uses a wheelchair for his temerity in being assaulted.
Perhaps it was a mysterious thing called a “parking lot”, a place where people both drive and traverse on foot/wheels, and there weren’t curb cuts on every single inch of sidewalk that fronted on it!
No, wait, no gym has a “parking lot”, nothing anywhere has a “parking lot”, such a thing is mere legend and rumor.
Yes, I can see exactly how legitimate criticism of this awful, confrontational person is. I’m sorry I protested. If he’s alleging the existence of “parking lots”, he’s obviously bending the truth! If not lying for attention outright!
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If you want to check the weather report for Mon, Jan 16 for Genesee County, MI, you can confirm my account.
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No thank you, Mister! Thanks to these other fine people I have been alerted to your mendacity. And I’m smart, I know that “Michigan” and “weather” are legends and rumors just as much as the fictional “parking lot” that you “parked” in.
Per post #72, I stated that under no circumstances was it deserved. I am speculating on the details, as this type of confrontation seems to occur with an odd regularity to our fair hero. His anecdotes are more canned than a bad 80’s sitcom.
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He was at the gym (oddly they almost always happen at a gym).
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Some cold hearted bastard aggrieves his sense of propriety with regard to his parking spot/gym equipment/cut curb.
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Nope, not gonna do it.
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He ever so gently begged the aforementioned Lord/Lady of the Underworld in almost apologetic manner.
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Satan and/or his minions then went all Agent Orange on his poor, unsuspecting, completely surprised, ass.
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Penis ensued.
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Cops are called.
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The callous baby raper who attacked him/told him to fuck off/is sued was let off scot free.
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After much speculation on the sound mind of the free world with regard to the welfare of less than abled (I don’t even know what the hell the PC term is anymore), it is learned that he initiated the confrontation in an aggressive, posturing manner although it was night/raining/snowing/in the eye of Hurricane Katrina/in the middle of an Indonesian tsunami which totally absolves him of all responsibility for his piece of the confrontation. Plus, hey, WHEELCHAIR!
There are, of course detail differences and not all of these occur every time. There are, however, enough similarities in these stories to get a general feel for the framework of how it works. After some point, you kinda get
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Some unthoughtful dick parked in a handicapped spot.
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Our hero is gonna give someone a piece of his offended mind.
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Still not gonna do it.
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Said piece of mind is given with aggression and hostility.
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Thoughtless dickhead gives it back.
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How can someone attack a guy in a wheelchair?
This has been my experience with his stories. YMOV.
Don’t worry, our friend seems to specialize in obtuse reading of others’ posts.
Also, his sarcasm school was bombed.
Yes, I saw that. You also discussed his “confrontational” attitude.
I am crazy, so crazy that I believe in things like “parking lots” and “Michigan” and I am so totally crazy crazy crazy that I think that I think it’s okay if people in wheelchairs get “confrontational” (as you put it) about other folks blocking access to curb cuts or accessible parking when they need them. In fact, I’m such a fucking nutcase that I think it’s good that some people are “confrontational” about their rights.
But I mean I am totally fucking nutso, I even believe in “rain” so I mean you should probably ignore my insane rantings.
Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day.
Naw, dude, you don’t have to be so generous. My therapist is trying to get me to take these pills that will stop me from believing in crazy ideas like “Michigan” and “it really doesn’t matter in the slightest what the guy in the wheelchair said to the guy who hit him”.
Would you mind citing some of these statistics for us? I mean, I totally believe everything you’ve said, but other people here are not be so trusting.
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Yes, the guy who pushed Jamie was a douche and was 100% in the wrong.
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However, don’t escalate a situation with a stranger, as you have no idea what they will do. Instances like that are exactly how a small thing like flipping the bird or saying “fuck you” can turn into homicides.
Coincidentally, I am crazy enough to believe that a confrontational, hostile, aggressive attitude, regardless of your side of the moral equation, will, more often than not, get same, if not worse, in return. Thus, the entire point of your grievance is completely missed in the blather and if the douchebag is crazy enough, you end up going ass over teakettle in your wheelchair.
As the prostitute said to her leper client, “Thanks for the tip.”
Have you read Ambivalid’s entire posting history? There is more than a little back story here that you might want to be sure you are aware of before you start going off at everyone else.
And by the way, being disabled is NOT a license to behave like an arsehole either. :rolleyes:
The truth is I don’t have them to hand, as I’m at home and don’t have all the resources I usually use at work. Perhaps you don’t believe me, and you think disabled people are less likely, or equally likely, as the general population, to be the victims of violent crime.
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Yes, the guy who pushed Jamie was a douche and was 100% in the wrong.
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However, don’t escalate a situation with a stranger, as you have no idea what they will do. Instances like that are exactly how a small thing like flipping the bird or saying “fuck you” can turn into homicides.
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And yet in reading someone’s recounting of a situation, it would never be relevant to say such a thing, since they obviously have already had some sense knocked into them.
But for some reason some people say it anyway.
This is helpful in case his disability not only involves his walking skills but also his thinking skills, and until you folks’ helpful explanations he had no idea that able-bodied people were likely to assault him. I will leave it to him to decide whether your explanations helped clarify a fact that he was unfamiliar with. If, in fact, you people are right about his past, I bet he’s already familiar with the threat of assault from able-bodied people. I mean, apparently, it’s something a guy using a wheelchair should expect if he gets all “confrontational”.
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Coincidentally, I am crazy enough to believe that a confrontational, hostile, aggressive attitude, regardless of your side of the moral equation, will, more often than not, get same, if not worse, in return. Thus, the entire point of your grievance is completely missed in the blather and if the douchebag is crazy enough, you end up going ass over teakettle in your wheelchair.
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I hope these pills start working soon, so I can understand why it would possibly ever be relevant that a disabled guy had an “aggressive attitude” when some guy decided to hit him while he was using a wheelchair. I mean, shit, I have a fucking aggressive attitude. I better study the fuck up in case I ever find myself in a wheelchair. I mean, if this guy yelling at someone for blocking the curb cut counts as “aggressive” in you people’s minds, there’s gonna be sniper rifles pointed at me.
Naw, and I apologize. If he’s “confrontational” or has an “aggressive attitude” as posters have indicated, it’s totally wrong of me to say anything in his defense.
Disabled mofos should know better than to have an “aggressive attitude”.
You’re right. It’s totally inappropriate to complain when access to something like a curb cut which is intended for people in wheelchairs is blocked. What kind of fucking asshole would complain about that?
Clearly not, as this thread itself shows. You are obviously unfamiliar with Jamie’s posting history here.
…because, my undermedicated friend, it doesn’t fucking matter whether the fair Ambivalid is disabled or not. You push enough buttons, you’re eventually going to push the “fucked up crazy guy that doesn’t give a rats fucking ass if you are in a wheelchair or not” button. You might hit several “OH I’m sorry. Let me move right away” buttons, but eventually you’re gonna roll snake eyes.
I bet you’re right. He just hasn’t been hit enough to knock the sense into his head.
JAMIE I HOPE YOU GET HIT MORE SO YOU LEARN A VALUABLE LESSON ABOUT NOT SASS-TALKING PEOPLE WHO WALK.
And good folks on the internet will gladly tell you what you did wrong by having the nerve to complain at people who aren’t in wheelchairs.
You know something - a while back Ambivalid put out a call for people to come and “help” him on this site. I am beginning to wonder if you answered his call.
It’s also interesting just how many of you posts say “diabled / in a wheelchair / unable to walk” as though these are the defining aspects of the whole encounter.
Or to put it another way - if you are in a wheelchair then you get to do whatever the fuck you like without repercussions is the message that is coming through.
In this life, it is a rather universal fact that no matter who or what you are, where you go, what you do and what colour your hair is there will be people that are infriging your rights, inconveniencing you, acting against proper social mores to your detriment (whatever way you want to define it) - the trick of being a part of society, and going through life relatively happy and unassaulted is how you deal with those instances.
If you want to be up in people’s faces and confrontational about it, then even though you have every right to be that way, eventually it will catch up with you. This sucks, and it’s wrong that some people are bullies like that, but hey - life sucks!
And I would seriously suggest you read through previous threads - like the time Ambivalid parked a guy in at the gym and had the police called, or the other time he had and altercation with another person who was had every right to a disabled spot (but didn’t have their permit on display), or even how going to the toilet on an airplane is an insult to his dignity.
This guy is rather agressive and confrontational - when people do wrong, he has every “right” to be that way, he does however seem to be unfamiliar with the idea of catching a whole hell of a lot more flies with honey than with vinegar.
You are also unfamiliar with the progression of past threads - a progression that we have already started see here whereby Ambivalid starts out as the sunshine queen in pure white innocence, but as more details come out it always turns out that he behaved like a confrontational jerk (and yes, even if you are justified, you can still be a confrontational jerk)
Please tell me this is a great big whoosh. Cuz a willfully, obtuse post, such as this, has got to be a joke.
Dude, anyone who wants to avoid physical confrontation should know better than having an aggressive attitude. It has absolutely fuck-all to do with disability.
ETA: bengangmo said it more eloquently.
ETA2: Does the amalgamated union of Norse creatures issue free-on-demand wheelchairs, or do they have to go private?
You’re asking me this? In a thread where someone on your side argued that parking lots don’t exist?
Really? Like, really?
I mean, to be honest, while in other circumstances I’d be questioning whether my judgment is wrong, in this case, I have apparently stumbled upon a hive of people who believe that parking lots are some sort of crazy myth or something, which makes me rather more certain that it’s not me, it’s you all.