I was deliberately rude to a stranger today

Actually, I’m more interested in your authority with synonyms. Your attitude toward manners is quite obvious.
Why don’t you start another thread in The Pit?

If someone is so impaired as to be unable to remember to be quiet during a movie, then I seriously wonder if they are cognizant enough to remember the movie anyway. I’m talking about someone who cannot keep their outburst down to a level to avoid disturbing others, which obviously the subject of the OP could not.

Why would i need to? I simply made clear that i believe that rudeness and absent-mindedness are effectively the same thing in some situations, and that age is no excuse for rudeness. If you disagree, fine.

The Op’s couple weren’t old. We went from there to generalities.

I invite you to inquire as to the meanings of both terms. And look up “willful” while you’re at it.
I also invite you to see which forum we’re in.
But I’m not going to argue.

But that’s precisely my point. In a setting where the need to be quiet is not only universally understood, but also underscored by warnings broadcast on the screen before the movie, there is no excuse for “absent-minded” chatter except that someone is willfully ignoring social conventions and the specific warnings of the theater owners. And that’s just rude.

Well aware of which forum we’re in. I’ve insulted no-one. If you think there’s something wrong with my posts, then report them. Your junior modding is just silly.

Good for you ,if more people stood up to be counted I reckon anti social behaviour would go down .

If I get on a train and there are no double seats left I always make a point of going to the seat where the person has deliberately spread all of their possessions over the seat next to them to deter anyone sitting there and ask them to move them so that I can sit down.

As Brits all too many people are too embarassed to do this .

I don’t try to hog a double seat, but will do something similar. When I go to the market, I’ll park my shiny new car (a Ridgeline this time) out in the wilds of the lot trying to avoid dings as much as possible. Almost without fail someone, usually in an old beater, will make the extra effort to park right next to my car.
I wonder if either, or both, of us is being rude. After all, it isn’t my parking lot, is it.

Wikipedia’s take on absent-mindedness pretty much covers it.
I found no mention of fucking morons, assholes, or prostate exams. Or of willful rudeness, for that matter.
Name calling, on the other hand…
BTW; My personal (and limited) experience with people talking during movies has been with younger folks by a large margin. Especially when someone shushes them. More especially when there’s a group. But that sample is far too small to draw any real conclusions.
Besides, I like youngsters. And they usually do grow up. :wink:
mangeorge

I hope when your memory starts to go and things in your mind aren’t as clear as they once where the one thing you do remember is this post, because it basically amounts to the same sentiment as “why don’t paraplegics just walk? you put your feet on the ground and walk. Nothing to it.” Well closer to “why don’t amnesia suffers just remember things? it’s easy you just think back on it and there it is”

The point is as age goes up, short term memory takes a hit. Loss of neurological function is a fact of aging. Some functional seniors might take advantage of it and play dumb, but for many it’s a real fact of life. Trying to say it’s willful is either being intentionally obtuse, or morbidly ignorant.

I agree that if the carpark is mostly empty then its ignorant for another driver to make a point of parking next to your car.

But if the carpark has every other space occupied and then you surround whatever space is around your motor with shopping trolleys etc.to actively prevent other people from parking where ever they like as is their right then you are being a little bit rude but at least there is a valid reason (protecting your car from dents)

But the people who do the same on seats are doing it for their own comfort at the expense of others and are usually shameless emotional bullies who rely on other peoples good manners to get away with it.

When travelling round the U.S. one time by Greyhound I saw an ignorant woman lying down across two seats desperately pretending to be asleep although she’d left a McD two minutes earlier and we all had to wait through the charade while the driver "roused "her .

The bus was full and she would have been quite happy for the black guy who had been sitting there before her to be made to get off just so that she could stretch out .
Im sorry but I positively loathe people like that

Ha. Yeh, i’m pretty sure it was Target brand. Which means some dude was out back, cigarette hanging from his lip, filling up bottles with the hose. At least when i drink the tap water, it’s from the sink and virtually free.

Yes, something like “Oh, you poor thing, does your house not have running water and indoor plumbing yet?”

One thing, most, if not all bottled water is filtered. Some to the point of purity.
Where I grew up, in Bakersfield, the water was (still is) so sulfery you could hardly drink it. We never did get used to the strong “rotten egg” smell and taste. Letting it sit, as advised by the water company, did nothing.
EBMUD, the organization that administers our water, publishes a report every year and the water quality always rates very high. The reason I buy bottled water (Crystal Geyser) is because I like the taste. I tried most of them, and I prefer this one. The city water is pretty tasteless.
Besides, I got way too much money. :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t believe that absent-mindedness is a good “excuse” either, but it is a legitimate reason why older people forget and talk a little too much sometimes. Doing something willfully requires that you focus the mind for an intentional act. If you are absent-minded, you haven’t focused your mind on anything. Twelve year olds are also often absent-minded about their manners when they know better too. I don’t expect either extreme to be very polished.

Often my old classroom teacher’s glare is enough to get people to stop the jabbering. (I got my just due one day when a new friend, a retired elementary school librarian, discovered that just by snapping her fingers repeatedly in my face, she could reduce my emotional state to that of a sniveling, compliant seven-year-old.)

At any rate, it doesn’t hurt to remind people when they are distracting others.

Even more rude than minor yakking, imo, is when some guy (usually a guy) loudly lets loose with what he thinks is a really clever bon mot at the movie trying to impress. Now that’s willful.
I agree with Zoe that a gentle reminder almost always does the trick.

I’m going to remember this next time some bottled water snob gets all “more hydrated than thou” on me.

You’re entirely right, and I’m slowly working on correcting this; however, most of the time when I am posed with an egregious behavior in public, I am an employee in the situation. I should stand up for myself, but I’ve more or less been trained throughout life that, as a female/employee/younger person, I will get in trouble if I speak up for myself when someone does something inappropriate. This often stifles me in situations like Saturday, when I found myself mute and violated by finding myself sitting in some other woman’s urine while in the bathrooms at my workplace. I walk into the bathroom, and both stalls are being used. Both ladies exit at the same time; I take a wager, and use the stall that the younger lady had been in, as it was not a handicapped stall. I guessed wrong, and didn’t look at the seat before I sat down; my legs were entirely covered in this woman’s urine, and I was so outraged and compelled to say something very loudly, but the next time I saw her, she was surrounded by salesmen and her male significant other and I didn’t do anything. I really wish I had, though, as it’s a disgusting habit that she is perpetuating and will probably pass on to any children that she might have.