Icicle as perfect murder weapon

In an Indian movie, “Samay” (meaning “Time”), a murder is committed with an icicle. The detective says that the murderer took an icicle - like those that hang from roofs in winter - and stabbed the victim in the neck. The icicle melted, so there was no weapon found. Perfect way to kill, since there would be no weapon to be found, no fingerprints, etc.

Now, coming into reality, is this (killing a person using an icicle) even possible?

WRS

I highly doubt it, they are very fragil, and they are rounded, so he/she would have to sharpen it, and use a really large icicle, that would be very heavy and unweildy.

Maybe using a big blog of ice and dropping it on the person, but an icicle strong enough to kill someone would be so big and heavy that I don’t see how someone could kill someone else with one. Unless they dropped it on the person from the roof top.

On CSI a while ago, a person killed another person using hamburger that was shaped into a bullet and frozen with liquid nitrogen. But that is beside the point.

I would think ou’d be able to use it. Stab, don’t slash, remember.
I suspect that just about every item has been used as a murder weapon in one way or other. Anthony Schaffer mentions Ice Daggers in his play Sleuth. A ice weight was used in a 1950’s Batman comic, and Roald Dahl famously had a murderess use a frozen leg of lamb to bash in her hisband’s head in a short story (“Lamb to the Slaughter”, I think). She later thawed it , cooked it, and served it to the detectives investgatin the case. Larry Niven used ice even more creatively in The Patchwork Girl. Bt none of these (except the Schaffer mention) were ice daggers.

Mythbusters had a show on bullets made of ice, and they determined that it was not possible.

Damn, you beat me to it. But they also proved frozen meat bullets don’t work either.

However, a frozen haunch would make an excellent bludgeoning weapon.

The best thing an icicle would do to something of human flesh’s density is bruise it. The icicle would probably break before it hurt anyone. It would also be kind of tough to wield, being slippery and slowly melting in your hand. If you’re lucky, you might put out someone’s eye.

That depends heavily on the ambient temperature:

An icicle as had as quartz would be pretty damn deadly. Then again, so would temps of around -70!

And you could cook it up and serve it to the investigating officers. (What movie/book was that from??) :smiley:

WAG - “Lamb to the Slaughter” ?

Tales of the Unexpected, by Roald Dahl.

It was a leg of lamb.

I think I saw a similar type of situation years ago on a murder show (Murder, she wrote, maybe) that had someone killed in a freezer. They couldn’t figure out what the murder weapon was.

Turns out that it was a frozen solid fish. The person was stabbed with pointy tail or some other part. Then, the fish thawed and it was as limp after watching Rosie O’Donell get married!!!

You people didn’t even look at my post, did you?
Third from the top.

I think I read somewhere that she later thawed it, cooked it, and served it to the detectives investgatin the case.

What about sticking an icicle into someone’s brain via the eye, like in Die Hard 2?

Oh that Roald Dahl. I thought you meant the other one. :wink:

[Incidentally, I think I subconsciouly skipped over your post due to the lack of double-spacing in the paragraph…]

Could one juice up the icicle/ice bullet a bit? IIRC during WWII there was a British proposal to make iceberg aircraft carriers out of a frozen sawdust/water mixture - a block of it was bulletproof.

Predating Dahl, the mystery short story “The Tea Leaf” by Edgar Jepson & Robert Eustace (1925) had an icicle as the murder weapon – in a steam room, no less.

IIRC, it was kept in a thermos of dry ice. That could have kept it cold enough to have the hardness of quartz.

Can anyone explain what would make an ice bullet impractical? I would have imagined that a high powered air cannon firing an ice slug would be at least as powerful as a rubber bullet, assuming the ice didn’t shatter immediately upon impact.

:rolleyes:

That’s where my WAG came from.

It’s called irony.

Or sarcasm, or something.