Let’s say 2 scenarios are possible.1) the government knew before hand and allowed it to happen 2) the government organised the operation.
If this news were to come out in our lifetimes what would this do to our world? I know various YouTube videos like Loose Change, The New Pearl Harbour, Apocalypto and a few by AlienScientist (Jeremy Rys), already seem to have compiled the story but if they are true and no one cares what does that mean?
Does it mean that we are doomed to enter a totalitarian state? I try to be skeptical with alternative media but it seems to be that we are heading in that direction with the NSA revelations, the Boston Bombing house raids, and the killing of unarmed blacks.
I truly fear what type of world we are already entering putting the 9/11 conspiracies aside. I am ready to exit this life if humans are entering into a bleak future.
The world is kind of busy right now with real crises to be bothered with conspiracy theories that have been shot down with facts over and over and over again.
Move on. Get a life.
I was trying to exit Ikea the other day and what a pain in the ass that was! I had already found my stuff in the front of the store and had no interest in wondering around forever.
Humans are always entering into a bleak future. But it is progressively less bleak every year for more people.
Do you know that the Panama Canal was built because Panama had a very convenient revolution against Columbia just when Teddy Roosevelt needed it? Does anyone care now?
In the early to mid-twentieth century it looked certain the future belonged to the dictators (FDR was in office longer than Hitler was). If “they” couldn’t kick-start a totalitarian American state in that atmosphere then “they” have no hope of doing so today.
Politics has always been ugly and manipulative. The American people have been lied to forever. And it really doesn’t matter - results matter, not intentions or processes.
Oh, and another thing, stop watching nut jobs on YouTube. At least find some nut jobs to read instead of watch. And remember that America is not the world.
Wait…so, in this scenario 9/11 never happened? It’s a HOAX?? The Twin Towers are still actually there and people can’t see them do to some sort of optical illusion? People have memories of cleaning up the area, of lost loved ones, even beginning to rebuild and they are all false memories???
Yeah, I’d say that if that were the case it would mean the lizard people are really in the drivers seat and we are all fucked. :eek:
At some point, a conspiracy becomes so vast and powerful that there is no point fighting it. Just be glad that it doesn’t seem to have anything against you. That said, there is no reason for any reasoning person to believe 9/11 was a conspiracy.
Thank God I don’t believe in the secret rulers of the world. Imagine what the secret rulers of the world might do to me if I did!
If it was revealed conclusively that the GWB administration was aware of or instigated the 9/11 attacks, then those involved would be tried for treason, and likely executed. Bush would replace Nixon as the most corrupt politician in American History. Faith in government would fall even lower than it currently is. While some 9/11 conspiracists would feel vindicated, many would be satisfied with the new revelations, as their compelling need to be one of the few “in the know” would make them concoct even more elaborate scenarios for which the new revelations are just a smoke screen.
For one thing, if there were actual conspiracies with 911 they would be exposed via evidence gathering by actual law agents, journalists, and other folks who know how to properly evaluate evidence. They would not have been exposed by youtube droolbunnies who think that fire has no effect on steel.
If nobody cares about 911 conpiracies it is because there simply are none beyond the actions of a few Al Queda operatives. You can’t make people care about bad fiction.
So the idea that ‘nobody cares’ is the start of the latest ‘whiney phase’ for 911 truthers. I’ve seen (and defreinded) a few folks on social media who have been posting more and more things saying ‘Everyone knows 911 was an inside jawb but *nobody cares * wah! wah! wah!’. I guess the ‘movement’ has gone full Emo or the latest batch of kids recruited were already supersoaked with self-pity.
Conspiracy-theory yammer has so poisoned the well that real evidence of an actual conspiracy probably wouldn’t have any impact whatsoever. This is a rather dreary realization – the final panel of Watchmen just got a whole lot less ominous, for one thing – but it’s life.
If that were true, Stephenie Meyer would have to find a job, but that’s neither here nor there.
Considering the OP already appears to have the emotional distress that would come from living in such a world, I would think he’d be happier to find out the foundations of his distress were real.
The OP is confused. He’s upset that people are ignoring the 9/11 inside job conspiracy. But he forgets that in our universe, 9/11 wasn’t an inside job, so the fact that people in our universe are ignoring it is a good sign. Since there is no evidence in our universe of the conspiracy it is rightfully being ignored.
If we lived in another universe, one where 9/11 really was an inside job, then it would be a different story. We’d have people caring, because there would be actual evidence. We’d have more than “We know Bush and Cheney are evil, so the official story must be wrong. I don’t know what the real story was, but it isn’t the official story, because Cheney is like one of those guys on an island where you have to pick which path to take, and he’s the one that always lies.”
So being upset because people in another universe don’t care enough about the 9/11 conspiracy that’s real in their universe is silly. Maybe people in that universe do care, how do you know they don’t? How do you know that in that universe Bush and Cheney aren’t in prison, and Dennis Hastert became President in 2002?
I take some issue with your term hoax, and your two scenario limit.
Calling it a hoax implies the events never happened and opens the door to all the people that claim there were no airplanes, video trickery, the moon landings were faked, ect. No one serious is really making that claim.
That said, the official 911 story is a provable lie.
The scenarios you list are not the only possibilities, and you listing them as the only two ways 911 could happen smack of disinformation to me. You’re saying that either A or B can be true, any other option can’t happen.
You are also bring up things that have absolutely nothing to do with 911, further muddying the waters.
If you are really worried, take heart in knowing a 911 most likely could not be pulled off today.
We are all better informed now and no one is going to be fed BS by mainstream media and take it like in '01.
And it’s a darn shame that no one has ever stepped up and proved it to be a lie. Perhaps you will be the one to so? You’ve had opportunities on this very message board but haven’t actually accepted the challenge.
Maybe today is the day, but I’m pretty sure this isn’t the thread.