Your Google-fu sucks then. It is not hard to find.
What’s to be done?
My conversations with them persuades me that they would view such things as trespassing on their Party positions.
Bah.
So, she talked to people who, by DNC rules, held 15% of the delegate votes, and asked them to vote for her. That’s what I said she did.
Let’s try this again.
WHAT
RULE
DID
SHE
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What I want is the name of the rule, the written down actual rule that says a candidate cannot talk to superdelegates. Is that a rule, was it ever a rule? All those links say (besides that Hillary funneled millions of dollars of money she raised to a bankrupt DNC) is that she secured the votes of superdelegates.
What doesn’t count is “not s’postas”, those aren’t rules. If those were rules, then Bernie wouldn’t have been on the ballot at all, because you’re not s’posta join a political party for the sole purpose of becoming their candidate for president, after decades of pointedly avoiding being part of the group.
BTW, I’ll repeat myself, if the RNC did the skeevy as hell unethical bullshit that the DNC did, we would never have had a Trump presidency. We might have had a normal Republican president, who would have done normal leader things during the pandemic that killed a million of us. We might have had something that vaguely resembles normal politics instead of 8 years of Trumpian who knows what this shit is anymore.
Perhaps, perhaps, having experienced political leaders help direct the nomination process isn’t anti-democratic evil, maybe it can protect us from people who are unsuited for the position, but are popular enough to convince the public to vote for them.
I didn’t think it was fair to hijack the main “Biden denies” thread over in Politics, since I’m sure this is just a case of us pulling off onto the frontage road for a bit, then getting back on the Highway to Hell right afterwards, but according to Predictit, as of 10:00pm Central tonight 7/20/24, Hillary’s gone from a 3% chance to be the November candidate (earlier this morning), to 12% tonight.
Predictit sounds like a bunch of fucking morons, ha ha ha!
“Oh yeah, Hillary has got a better shot today, than last week. Way better!”
Remember how 538 said that by their polling she’d win in a landslide in 2016?
People have had too many years to learn to hate her, rational opinion or not.
PS- Biden is too old…?
Hillary is 76…
I do think that she has a better shot this week than last week, since the calls for Biden to stand asside have increased. Last week she had a snowballs chance in Hell, this week she has a snowballs chance in Death valley.
Yeah, that seems kinda obvious. Everyone has a better chance once the main guy drops out. Anyone who put Biden ahead now is going to spread that money among the other candidates.
Do I think she’ll win? Hell, no. She’s the one candidate who has a history of losing against Trump. I see no reason anyone in the DNC would want to roll the dice again.
No? They were amongst the most conservative in her chances of winning. They only had her at around 70% chance of winning which is hardly a sure landslide. Other outlets had her chances of winning in the 90s.
That was my point she went from having zero chance to having zero chance for a slightly higher value of zero. (and with that statement I’ll have to return my math degree).
I don’t remember that and you don’t either. It didn’t happen.
A lot of people can’t comprehend the difference between “A 70% chance of winning” vs. “The vote tally will be 70% for the winner.”
Two utterly different ideas.
2+2=5, for sufficiently large values of 2.
The moderate middle / disenterested voters do not like Hillary…at all. They voted for Trump over her and 2016, and they voted for Biden over Trump in 2020. And they would have voted for Trump over Biden in 2024, if it came to that, as it turned out Biden didn’t do much to help them during his tenure. Let’s hope that Harris is an acceptable alternative to Trump for this group. This group doesn’t vote on party lines. They typically vote on how their perception of the economy is doing in relation to themselves.
Hillary was not well liked before the 2016 election, that is why she lost to Trump.
She is even less liked since then. No one would be supporting her against Trump again. It would be an insured loss.
Assured loss?
Anyway, Hillary got more votes than Trump in 2016.
Also, Barr helped Trump get elected with his bullshit.
Also, also, Hillary’s team should have paid more attention to the EC.
Also also also, there were two decades of Hillary hate to build on.
But yes, many folks would not currently support her against Trump now.
I’d hope so. I’d hate to see the premiums on that one