Yeah, but it would be the classic ‘not the crime, but the coverup’ scenario.
Clinton was a well-known/rumored horndog, so he got (more or less) a pass. Obama is more-or-less a ‘family values’ guy - so coming out at this point (even if he’s been faithful to Michelle), would sink him.
code_grey writes:
> if he attended religious classes in Indonesia, did he not recite the Muslim
> symbol of faith that are used during the conversion ceremony? Or is the
> prevailing opinion among Muslims that for legit conversion you need some
> particular age and a special place/ceremony for it to count?
>
> ETA: oh, so there are doubts about whether he had religious instruction in the
> first place. Interesting. Well, at least this article
> http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2007/0...red-as-muslim/ claims that he had he
> did attend a “Muslim school” at some point. Did they have religious instruction
> in Muslim schools back then in Indonesia?
The article claims that he attended a Muslim school and a Catholic school. It claims that it says on his registration form for the Catholic school that he was a Muslim. It could be that his stepfather was there registering hm. The registrar might have asked his stepfather for his religion, so the stepfather told the registar that he was Muslim and the registrar just assumed that his son should be considered a Muslim. Other sources say that he didn’t attend a Muslim school at all, just a public school. Perhaps all public schools in Indonesia are nominally Muslim. In any case, Obama says that he never had any instruction in Islam.
Look, maybe as a child Obama was secretly instructed in Shintoism by a Shinto priest in Hawaii. Maybe in college he secretly traveled to Tibet to be instructed in Buddhism. Maybe he became a Scientologist. Maybe he’s really a neo-pagan.
It’s easy to make up a lot of hypotheticals. You can do the same for every other politician or political candidate. Why aren’t you asking these same questions about every other person who’s running for political office? All we can know about a politician or a political candidate’s religious beliefs is what they say they are. To a lesser extent we can reconstruct their background. What we know of Obama’s background is that he was mostly brought up by people with at most fairly vague beliefs. We know that he’s now a member of the United Church of Christ. Anything else somone tries to claim is just guessing or making things up.
Maybe, but enough probably do combined with the people who don’t like him for other reasons that it would add up to more than 50%. I mean, straight Obama’s going to have a hard enough time getting reelected as it is. Gay Obama wouldn’t have a chance.
Well it would just have to be a big chunk of Obama supporters that give a damn, not 50% of the total voters.
Remember Prop 8 in California and the big kerfuffle about the Mormons getting the blacks to vote for it? It would really throw a wrench in the works if Obama lost the black vote.
Seriously. While I can take the OP at face value, it also reads kind of like those “Did Glenn Beck Rape and Murder a Girl in 1990?” trolls that were popular a little while ago.
I was almost expecting to see “So why doesn’t Obama just admit he’s gay? I think the nation is tolerant enough for that now.”
Yeah it’s an attempt to give a negative rumor some legs. It didn’t work with being Kenyan, or a secret Muslim, so not it’s that he is gay. The trap is that the troll can say things like, “but there’s noting wrong with being gay, why doesn’t he just admit it?”
That’s my take on it too. It’s identical to those transparent attempts at meme spreading - couch the accusation in some non-committal question.
I’ll chime in and fourth the impression of the OP, or the rumor, being a Concern Trap.
Never mind the “Hussein” thing. His mother was a man named Stanley!
He can’t get a “job bill” passed; why would anyone think he could impose Sharia law in the USA?
for this particular one, don’t remember. Similar results can be obtained from (Obama secret homosexual)
Hussein isn’t a Muslim name, it’s an Arabic name.
If a man’s name is Patrick, that doesn’t make him Catholic, does it?
Google:
Obama secret alien = 169,000,000 hits
Obama secret homosexual = 83,000,000 hits
Obama secret Muslim = 28,000,000 hits
Obama secret republican = 40,000,000 hits
Obama secret communist =7,600,000 hits
Obama secret empire = 2,700,000 hits
I’m bored now, but it’s clear that he is really an alien.
Most may not be but closeted gays who have to obtain votes from a very wide range of public, including the prejudiced if possible, have a lot to lose in this respect.
This makes no sense. What you are saying is like saying because the way you cheat at cards is cheating it won’t cause you to win. It will, if you don’t get caught. And there are plenty of people who won’t realise they are being cheated. Just because you understand doesn’t mean there aren’t swathes of people who can be hoodwinked.
I don’t think you are getting it. Reality is not perception. I doubt this rumour will fly, but stupider rumours have, and with good effect. I will never forget how after that major report came out saying Saddam didn’t have WMD, not only did a massive chunk of the population still believe he did, but an incredible percentage believed that’s what the report said.
Never underestimate the stupid.
so what’s your disagreement with my OP? :rolleyes: I said that I am surprised at the notion that in this day and age a Democrat politico would need to hide his homosexual involvement. You seem to believe likewise, based on laws, prior precedent and J. P. Morgan. Yay for SDMB bipartisanship, eh?
Which politico is that?
Do you sleep well at night?
Could you out those dead Presidents for me? I fantasize on dead Prezs.
Wait, what? As far as I know, J. P. Morgan wasn’t gay, and if he was, he certainly wasn’t publicly so.
As for gay US Presidents, the only two Presidents that homosexuality has seriously been suggested of were James Buchanan (with some evidence) and Abraham Lincoln (without very good evidence, IMHO).
What about Hoover?