Choosing Palin was a sign of political dementia from McCain. You can’t survive that as a credible person. He was well worth opposing anyway.
I don’t think anyone gives the left credit for seeing what Palin’s rise meant and how badly it reflected on our politics. We know now. McCain is as guilty as anyone for trump.
Perhaps, I used to lean Republican before we invaded Iraq. But in what way am I quacking like Trump supporter?
Does criticizing Hillary and the establishment Democrats make me a Trump supporter?
Have I spoken approvingly of any of his policy positions (that were not also shared by Bernie, I’m talking about trade mostly).
Does making fun of the Trump Triggered Snowflakes make me a Trump supporter.
Considering the fact that over 40% of the eligible voting population didn’t bother voting, the popular vote isn’t necessarily an expression of what Americans support. its an expression of what voters support. Parties have been know to try and tweak who their voters are with gerrymandering, voter ID laws, literacy tests, etc.
Yes, then he lost the primary to Bush based on a loathesome rumor that his adopted daughter from a Bangladeshi orphanage was his love child with a black woman.
To his credit he tried to quash the birther movement and some of the more vile rumors about Obama during the campaign. That was only 8 years ago and it already seems like the good old days.
That “snowflake” seems rather popular among Trump supporters.
Rather ironic considering how fragile The Cheeto is.
Perhaps. But Trump was supposed to be the end point for the Republican party not the starting point for the “You think have gotten nucking futz? Hold my beer.”
That is the core basis of right wing policy in your country. All Republicans cater to this “starve the beast” shit. You both eat and feed these delusions through dogged denial.
What are you speaking in, somesort of code? If you have an agrument just present it.
Okay, going the “I cant hear you” route, eh? I guess it’ll ease your blindness to the political realities of your country.
No. Because the left didn’t do that. They ran against Romney basically by pointing out Obama was better. And they ran against McCain by saying he was just going to be more of the same as under Bush. (And they ran against Palin by pointing out she was stupid.)
You might have a point with Bush, though it happened after Bush left more than anything. And, even then, they were dealing with what they thought was the worst things could get. You can’t blame them for not predicting someone as bad as Trump.
The thing is, the left didn’t have to even point out Trump’s evil to anyone who actually cared about good vs. evil. Trump was obviously evil. The big cry was that everyone had to vote for the “lesser of two evils.” So even they admitted that Trump was evil.
I get it. You’re not a Trump supporter. You are, apparently, the type of conservative who is looking for an excuse to blame the left for the problem.
And, even though I will admit some legitimate complaints, the idea of “crying wolf” was not one of them.
Yeah, kinda. Trump is doing horrible things, yet you act as if the people who oppose them are just “snowflakes,” people who get upset over the tiniest of things. You’re deliberately trying to invalidate the concerns and actions of those who oppose Trump.
You may not consider yourself a Trump supporter, but you are in fact supporting Trump by doing this.
You claim you don’t support him. Fine. Then don’t belittle his opposition.
I recall very little apocalyptic language from that campaign, unless you consider "we cannot have another 8 years of this Neo-Con bullshit’ to be apocalyptic.
2008 McCain was just a Neo-COn pandering tool. His shutdown of Birthers and racists only indicates that others in the party weren’t doing so. Noble, certainly, but he shouldn’t have had to do it and it says much about the company he was keeping.
Palin was the main Deal Killer for me. I saw the pandering as an attempt to garner as much support as possible (pragmatism), even though I had no use for “the base”. But Palin shot him in the ass, far as I was concerned.
No, they didn’t want to burn it all down, but Bannon, the chief advisor, “unofficial” president and now permanent member of the national security council has plainly stated on the record that this was his goal.
*“I’m a Leninist,” “Lenin, wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” * - Bannon
And apparently, in Trump he has a willing accomplice…
“A lot of people live better without having a job, than with having a job. I’ve had it where you have people and you want to hire them, but they can’t take the job for a period of nine months because they’re doing better now than they would with a job.”
“You know what solves it? When the economy crashes, when the country goes to total hell, and everything is a disaster, then you’ll have riots to go back to where we used to be, when we were great.” - Trump
McCain and Romney would have NEVER said that. EVER.
To be brutal about this, I think you are just a troll. A troll pretending to be sincere. But pretty DAMN transparent all the same.
All I know is that he is making the threads he participates in virtually unreadable. When I see one poster has made five lengthy posts in a row, my eyes just glaze over. When I see he’s made the last post in a thread, I don’t even bother to open it.
That’s probably the best way to handle him.
Yep, that’s the way it is.
Amusingly enough, that sort of thing comes from people that otherwise decry “Fake News” and the “Post-Truth” environment.
Funny story, she actually did, but the Secret Service got there before she dressed him out. CLose call.
Fortunately, this board provides a simple tool that makes those threads readable again.
Nothing says “Take me credibly” like the argument “You only disagree with me because I’m not a sheeple”.
Well, almost any Republican is well worth opposing. McCain for all his amiability was pretty conservative. He held the line on gays in the military harder than anyone. His pro-life voting record is pretty one sided.
I thought Palin (and Trump) spelled the end of the Republican party and the party would have to split into the crazy as fuck party and the Torys.