Why would I take issue with the reasonable criticism?
Its the silliness that goes unchecked on this board that needs to be criticized.
Don’t you think that reasonable rational liberals have a duty to tamp down on the silliness? Or do we just ignore the silliness and join the choir on the reasonable stuff.
State a reasonable position and I will agree but I doubt I will do much more than that unless someone takes the opposite position.
There’s plenty of reasonable discussion and disagreement within that reasonable criticism. It’s fine to tamp down on silliness when you see it, but based on many of your recent posts you’ve swept together all the criticism, or almost all of it, into the silliness basket – you stated, IIRC, that now, after the refugee order, it was reasonable to attack Trump… when of course it was plenty reasonable to attack him about his plan to do just this since he said it months ago.
Meh the Republitroll thread is just more liberal self stroking and looking for affirmation from within the bubble.
As I understand it, trolling is making intentionally provocative statement that you don’t even believe in order to elicit a reaction.
For some reason, some people on this board seem to have trouble with the notion that I dislike Hillary and blame her for letting Trump win. They have trouble with the notion that I think that violent protests are bad an reflect badly on the entire protest. They have trouble believing that I think that the protests surrounding the inauguration was largely venting by snowflakes about the fact that Trump won the election.
This board is great at pointing out conservative stupidity and irrationality but we turn a blind eye to liberal stupidity. It as if they people that liberal stupidity isn’t as harmful to liberalism as conservative stupidity is to conservatism. This board is like Arrakis for conservatives (culling the weak) and a safety space for liberals where even the stupidest liberal are taken seriously and nurtured.
Unfortunately, it’s not available to me. Mods can’t put people on ignore.
I saw a lot of silliness and no one else tamping down on it so there might have been some friendly fire.
I don’t think I criticized people for being concerned about what Trump might do, at the very least it was clear that he was going to nominate more conservative justices to SCOTUS. I think I mostly criticized ProtestJ20 for rioting during the inauguration. I chuckled a bit at the women’s march because it mostly seemed like venting by the ready for Hillary crowd that Hillary lost.
If implied that it was not reasonable to attack Trump in any way before the refugee order, then I either misspoke or was misread. I thought I was pretty clear about the specific types of idiocy I was calling out. The electors should switch their vote to Hillary. The Russians were responsible for revealing Hillary’s duplicity, cheating and corruption, which helped Trump win, so trump is not a legitimate POTUS. Trump is a Russian Manchurian agent or will be coerced into obeying Putin because the Russian mob will threaten his family. Trump has sex with his daughter. Trump didn’t really win because he lost the popular vote. Trump won because of the racists (who apparently don’t have much of a problem with a back dude named Barack Hussein Obama becoming POTUS) in the rust belt states. Trump won because of misogynists (like being a woman actually hurt the female candidate whose campaign spent a lot of time money and energy highlighting the fact that she was a woman, historic even). And then there is all the Trump focused hyperventilating about stuff that just about any of the other Republicans would have done.
I think that is MOST of the idiocy I have been calling out.
Fuck sakes. Damuri already have the gun/police threads to wall paper his verbal diarrhea with… do we really need one more thread where that he’s going to make completely unreadable?
You didn’t imply it. You said it outright.
Some of that is idiocy and silliness, some is not, IMO.
The part I bolded doesn’t matter here. The recent suspension of Clothahump is my cite.
I think I prefer this version of the thread … My ignore button has been getting a good workout lately.
So, concern troll is concerned.
Gotcha.
So all the people protesting were burning cars and bashing in windows? I mean, if you get to speak in silly, dumb absolutes, so do I; so yeah, that’s precisely what they were protesting.
In seriousness, of course about 99.999% of people who’ve protested Trump have obeyed the law, and you know as well as I do that the protests are that Trump is an evil man who intends upon doing harm to his country. I am mystified as to why people who wait until after he’s done everything wrong he intends to do to protest, when it’s very, very apparent that he’s embarking upon precisely the hideous blueprint people feared.
If this were to happen then the ban would have failed in its stated purpose, so it wouldn’t be prescient, it would be incompetent.
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It would mean that the temporary travel ban against these seven countries is not perfect. That doesn’t mean it’s not a step in the right direction. In 90 days, after federal agencies have submitted their reports, a new plan may, or may not, be implemented.
I can understand why that’s so, but it’s still gotta suck.
Sorry, and thanks for doing what you do.
Personally, as freedom of speech is important to me, I will wait until he bans political protesting before I protest, as protesting before he does what he says he will do doesn’t make any sense.
cite?
Well, your opinions are your own but this is the stuff I’ve been calling out.
Blinding yourself to inconvenient truths because you can’t actually address the substance of an argument is a good way to preserve the integrity of a bubble. You can almost tell which liberals are bubble breathing snowflakes by their “threats” to put others on ignore. :rolleyes:
Then your silliness and idiocy meter is out of whack. It’s reasonable to disagree on and have discussions about many of those things.
Wait, Clothahump got suspended for making intentionally provocative statements that that he believed to be true?!?!?!
The pit is littered with intentionally provocative statements. I suspect that there must have been some disingenuity involved.