I'm looking for a baseball game (computer)!

In the past, I’ve played Hardball. Well, as far as I can tell, that’s done. And even if it was, I wouldn’t waste money on it again, for different reasons.

I like to play it while the real baseball season’s going on, just for the heck of it. Ok, so I’m a nerd.

Anyway, this year I got Microsoft Baseball. Whoa! Should have known better, since it’s a damn Microsoft product. I’ve played it twice, and both times it crashed when I brought in my first reliever. Not good.

So - can anyone recommend a computer baseball game? It can be either a CD-ROM game, a downloadable one, or even one you can just play online.

I prefer ones that are heavier on realistic statistics, with less emphasis on actual graphics. I want to be able to edit my players to my heart’s content, but that’s not a necessity.

Hey, it keeps me off the streets and off the crack cocaine, so I guess it ain’t all bad. Any ideas?

If you want accurate, stats-based game play, get the High Heat Series. Stay away from Triple Play, they are very arcadey and winning a game means hitting more home runs.

Thanks, Elwood. I’ll look into it. Thanks a bunch.

High Heat Baseball 2002 is the best all-around game out there. Reasonably good statistical replay, though not perfect; very good arcade play, good team management features. Seems stable enough.

Triple Play Baseball is still the best arcade game.

Diamond Mind Baseball has the best statistical replay of any game on the market.

Baseball Mogul is the only game with a really good financial modelling simulation, but there’s little else to the game. It’s fun though.

Baseball for Windows by Miller Associates uses an extraordinary ABPA base for it game, giving it stunning statistical replay, but there’s no career mode or arcade mode and the interface is brutal. And it’s expensive.

High Heat? No Thanks! I was turned off by the piece of crap original. Unless things have change, the players can be edited but you’re stuck with the league structure.

Diamond Mind, formerly known as Pursue the Pennant, is good for replaying single seasons.

Baseball Mogul is absolutely the best game for simulating a player’s entire career, as long as you don’t mind the absence of graphics. I don’t think this game has anything that can’t be edited! I’d say this is what dantheman is after. There is a new version due out by the end of this month.

I have Microsoft Baseball 2001 and have experienced no problems. Much better than the original High Heat and incorporates Baseball Mogul’s career engine.

I don’t know if it’s still around, but Front Page Sports: Baseball Pro '98 would be good for career simulation, if only doing so wouldn’t take so damn long! Like Baseball Mogul, BBPro is also very editable.

Last night, I fooled around with Diamond Mind Baseball version 8. It was sent at no charge because I had recently bought version 7. After I had the computer simulate a couple of exhibition games, I started looking into creating my own all-time great teams league. Here’s something of interest from their website:

At $70 for the game and most recent season disk, or $50 for just the game, DMB is out of the price range of some people. For those who are interested in simulating an entire career, or just price conscious, get the next version of Baseball Mogul. Users of both games can edit practically anything, but DMB seems best suited for just simulating single seasons or exhibition games.

Thanks, Jeff. I did check out Baseball Mogul’s site, and I’m gonna wait till their new one comes out - they said the end of this month. Thanks for the tip! The $70 for Diamond Mine’s a little too high for me, but it certainly looks realistic enough…

dantheman,

You might want to give Out of the Park a try. Website at http://www.ootp3.com. Price is $29.95 via download. Nice features include:

  • Career mode
  • Ability to import ANY year and replay using Lahman Database (it’s free!!)
  • Tons of Stats

It has about the same statistical accuracy as Diamond Mind with a better general manager/career mode/financials function than Baseball Mogul. User support is great and there is a growing community of users (lots of on-line leagues and add-ons).

Just to let you know, there are some minor bugs that the developer is working to correct as we speak (should have a patch out within a week). Another one should come out in a month that will fine tune the trade AI and financial engines. Biggest complaint on their message board (as far as I know) is that the game won’t run on some computers that only have 800 X 600 screen resolution.

In my opinion, OOTP is the best computer baseball game on the market right now, bar none. And this coming from a long-time Diamond Mind player (I’ve also played Baseball Mogul - a really fun game, but OOTP does so much more!!). You’ll definitely get your money’s worth in purchasing the game.

Thanks, eponymous, I’ll look for it when I get home. Are those stats all editable? That’s pretty important for my purposes, but the price seems right…

Thanks guys, you’ve been a big help…

I’m going to second Jeff on this one- Baseball Mogul is kick-ass. I haven’t tried Diamond Mind, though, so I can’t compare it.

As for Baseball Mogul- keep in mind that you won’t get any graphics to speak of. No watching the game as it progresses; the best you can hope for is reading the play-by-play as the computer writes it (and in the current version, if you’ve got a fast computer, you can’t even do that).

On the other hand, Mogul throws in something that no other baseball game sim does- money. Hey, sure, we all want A-Rod, Piazza, McGuire and Sosa on our starting line-up. But you can’t afford that. Especially if you’re the Milwaukee Brewers.

One other note on Mogul- check out Walmart, Best Buy, and CompUSA. For the longest time last year, they had the 1999 version on sale for a few bucks (literally $3 in some cases), so you can pick it up for dirt cheap and see if it’s what you want.
Jeff- so when you play Baseball Mogul, do you play the Baltimore Orioles, or do you do what I do- move the Montreal Expos down to DC and rename them the Senators? Not that I’m obsessed or anything.

Lately, I’ve mainly been editing roster patches for BM2K, at least when I have time to do so. Someone sent me a 1987 patch with some stats missing, I’ve been putting those in when I can find time. With all the accuracy involved, it takes quite a while to edit the entire Major Leagues. Sometimes I get bored and start playing somthing more exciting, like Diablo II.

The first thing I did with BM2K was to correct the rosters that were included with the previous version. I’ve managed the Yankees for about 30 seasons. I had both Sosa and Junior at one point, and kept Junior playing long enough to retire with just over 1000 career homers!

Hmm…looks interesting. Think I’ll give it a try, but probably won’t have enough time to really get into it until this weekend.

As I said before, BBPro '98 is also good, but playing an entire season is sloooow compared to the other games. The people at Sierra claim the accuracy would diminish if the simulation was allowed to speed up. However, I do like the ability to recreate any team’s actual uniform colors. When I created a 1915 season with all three leagues, I was able to give the Tigers their historically correct beige uniforms.

For the latest info on Baseball Mogul 2002 check out the message boards at their new website.

I downloaded OOTP3 but haven’t installed it yet. I’ve seen users complaining that the game takes a long time to simulate a season. One user posted on the Mogul message boards that after 4 hours of playing, the game is still in the first season. How is the simulation speed for you, eponymous?

*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen *

Well, I have a Pentium II 450 MgHz with 128 Mg of RAM and speed for me is really not a problem. I can simulate a season in OOTP3 about 10 minutes. To achieve best results, you may need to ensure maximum amount of RAM space.

*Originally posted by dantheman *

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Thanks, eponymous, I’ll look for it when I get home. Are those stats all editable? That’s pretty important for my purposes, but the price seems right…

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Yes, the stats are editable. Also, the first patch has been released. The 800 x 600 resolution problem will be corrected in a few weeks. I definitely recommend you purchase it if you are a serious simmer!!

I like being able to generate an entire league direct from the Lahman Database, which I downloaded. I grew up watching the Cubs, so I started a career in 1984. The menu system takes a little getting used to. The in-depth scouting reports are great! So far, I haven’t seen anyone capable of playing multiple positions other than the outfielders; the reason for this could be that I imported stats from the Lahman Database. Right now, I prefer the defensive depth in Baseball Mogul.

I’ve downloaded OOTP, and so far I’m very pleased with the results. I’ve taken the 2000 Phillies and edited them to my heart’s content. Cool deal with the financial stats, too.

One problem. I started the first game, rearranged the lineup to my liking, and hit continue.

Crash! One of those “Such and Such has detected an error in your program and will now close.”

This happened twice. And since it was late, I didn’t try a third time. I rebooted the computer and went to bed. When I get home, I’ll give it another whirl…

Did you also get the version 3 patch?

High Heat Baseball 2002 is the best and most realistic of the games that you actually play. Great career mode and custom league features. It’s a little buggy right now, but the first patch should be out by the end of the month.

I used to play the Hardball series, too, and High Heat captures the spirit of those games. Very realistic.

Gee, that sounds familiar. :rolleyes: Remember the original High Heat and all the problems it had? Remember the patch that was supposed to fix those problems? Sure, it fixed some problems but it also gave my copy new ones! After all that, I won’t bother with the game anymore. As I’ve said before, Microsoft Baseball 2001 is better than the original High Heat and works just fine on my system.