Thank you. They do have standards. I hope to God this idiot is just talking out of his ass about the Air Force. The AF did a lot for me personally (medical issues) as well as my family.
I have this horrible feeling we’ve been feeding somebody who lives under a bridge.
Marry me.
Damn, Biggirl, I’d pay to see THAT!
BTW, I had a hard time reading and following the OP-he doesn’t seem that coherant.
Perhaps he should learn not to post while drunk.
I suppose you’re right. So, when the hell are we gonna see postings from Staff Sergeant Doors, USAF??
It’ll be a few years yet. I just got promoted a year and three months ago, and I’m not even eligible for ALS yet.
Rest assured, though, it’ll happen.
autz,
You ask if I contract a disease related to my smoking, would you get to turn me away. I hope that you do get that chance. Right now, I have Tricare (The world’s Best insurance for the world’s Best military, to quote the little card in my wallet) and I intend to keep it when I hit my twenty year mark. So, when I’m dying of lung cancer, no, it won’t be social security which picks up the tab, it’ll be MY insurance because it (the disease) is MY responsability to MYSELF. But, good point.
Astro,
Crap coated nonsense? I’d call it a change in lifestyle. I ate roughly 2000 calories per day, mainly from fatty foods (Burger King was my friend prior to enlistment.) When I joined the Air Force, and got sent to the 324th TRS, our daily intake was between 2700 and 3000 calories per day. Most of those were from fat free or low fat foods, large amounts of sugars from fruits, no pop, no candy, and god forbid that this fat body ever look at the spinning dessert rack or the dog machine (the campaign hats in the snake pit’d have a cow.) Our morning routine was wake up at 0445, and then PT from 0500 to 0630. Then whatever would come throughout the day. That’s not counting Warrior Week where I dropped over 20 pounds in six days (going on one MRE a day ain’t healthy, and I did have to go to Wilford Hall Medical Center for a checkup and a bag of saline for dehydration.) Believe me, or not, but I’m far from the most shining example there (there was a guy who got recycled from a previous flight who was down over 100 pounds and still had a ways to go.)
Airman Doors,
When I signed up, MAW wasn’t the only part of it. If you were above your MAW, they taped you, and so long as your body fat was under 25%, you could ship. You had to wear a goddamn ‘fat body belt’ which indicated you were a risk for heatstroke, but asides from that, you’d ship. As far as closing this thread, I want to keep it open as long as people want to continue to argue this. I’ve made some comments and I’m not going to back away from them. Good luck in Airman Leadership School, you’ll make a fine NCO.
What a fucking crock of shit. Reminds me of another thread on another forum where pretty much everybody claimed "Well, I wouldn’t mock them if THEY WERE TRYING!” :rolleyes: Yeah, I am quite sure you go up to people saying “I was about to lay into you for being a fatass slob who needs to eat less so they don’t resemble the Michelin man, and exercise more. Tell me; are you one of those fatties who has some sort of disease or disorder that causes you to be like that? Yes? Ok then, I’ll be on my merry way.”
You can try to rationalize it anyway you like with "If they are trying, then it is ok!” but unless you actually ask them, which is also as rude as laying into them publicly, you cannot declare them of either being lazy or OK! Because they are TRYING! (The magical word that makes you look less like a jerk for placing assumptions on people you don’t know).
Perhaps Jesus G. has an eating problem. Or, like it was mentioned, he takes solace in eating food because it makes him feel better. They are valid reasons, and can explain why he is always eating. Yes, it may just be him eating all the time and not exercising, only a problem caused by him, but still, you don’t KNOW.
Idiot.
Well let’s see. A 30-40 year old relatively sedentary male needs about 10 calories a day per lb of body weight just to keep his basic metabolic rate and body temperature going. You are purportedly a 17 year old male who should be burning even sedentary baseline calories faster than middle aged men and yet you are able to maintain a 240 lb body weight on 2000 calories per day or 8.3 calories per lb of body weight a day. Astounding! You are a physical marvel!
See this website to accurately calculate daily caloric rates
Even more astounding is that while under training you were exercising enough while eating 2700-3000 calories per day to burn off 2.2 lbs per day (90 lbs in 40 days). This would require burning an additional 7920 (3600 cals per lb of fat X 2) calories over the 2700 you are consuming so you are now burning over 10,000 (2700 + 7920 calories per day!! The human body is a relatively efficient machine and even if you were training for a marathon a 5’10", 240 lb 17 year old would not burn over 4500-5000 calories per day max.
In the real world if you are eating 2700 calories daily while training intensively and buring 5000 calories a day this amounts to around a 2300 calorie loss per day or 16,100/3600 weekly or 4.4 lbs per week (lets even say 5) vs the claimed 15.4 lbs per week you claimed to have lost.
Your silly attempt to defend this completely absurd weight loss claim instead of admitting you are wrong is proof positive that you are a con man and a BS artiste.
Nope, you’re not wrong. I don’t know what the weight limit is for men, but I DO know that the Air Force weight limits for recruitment are based on archaic charts and therefore are generally quite a bit lower than what is considered “normal” in this day and age.
They added a “bodyfat” portion for people who are weight lifters who those who have a high LBM (lean body mass), but even that is a really weird type measurement that’s not very accurate.
I have a hard time believing they let someone that overweight into the Air Force.
Now, it’s been a while since I’ve been in, so I could be wrong. But like others here have said, this kid sounds like he’s 12, not in his 20s. And I seriously doubt he approached and verbally attacked a stranger in the manner in which he describes.
The misunderestimantation of human stupidity is a mistal fatake.
I’m not overweight, and I have no problem with other people’s weight. As such, I don’t follow the fat-bashing threads, so I don’t know if this has been brought up in any of them.
Let’s forget, for a moment, how and why and if someone can lose weight. The question is, other than for health reasons, does anyone even have to? Sticking to a diet and fitness program takes a lot of time and concentration. Some people have finite amounts of both, and prefer to expend them on their job, or on creative efforts, or family.
Would Reuben, from American Idol, look better if he lost weight? Probably. Does his weight in any way detract from his talent? No. Mr. Rilch was pushing 300 when I met him. I didn’t even notice; I was too distracted by his charm. Another guy I went to college with was over 300 pounds, and studying architecture. He had no time at all to exercise, but the time he spent on his studies got him hired right out of school, for a salary that made me blanch. Peter Jackson is a bit rotund. Would he benefit from a fitness program? Probably. But that would take a lot more spare time than he has. And, having just seen the trailer for ROTK, I can honestly say that it wouldn’t matter if he weighed 400 pounds: he’s spent his time in the most productive way possible.
Can you only take someone seriously if they are in top physical condition? If so, I’m sorry to say that the problem is with you.
The fact that your health care costs are covered by different coffers than some other people, doesn’t take away from the fact that you’ll be irresponsibly wasting money coughed up by U.S. taxpayers. Which means that you, the Indignant One, are attempting to rationalize the very sin you slathered on the first person in your triad of fantastical stories.
Where in the world do you think the money comes from to pay for your insurance? The Tricare Fairy?
No one here will get the satisfaction of turning you away should you lie dying of self-inflicted lung cancer (nor, I suggest, would anyone truly want that), but we will groan over the wasteful costs incured by a guy who hypocritically suggests that others should have their ducks in a row, while, at the same time, he’s holding his feathery fuckers under water and drowning them.
Just a first impression, and also my own opinion, but I think fushj00mang is very similar in attitude, to the person I pitted in this thread. In his own “unique” way, of course. Where’s that pukey smiley anyway?
So, a few people falsely claim that they’re victims of racism, when in actuality, the bad things that happened to them was their own damn fault.
And this is a reason to pit “believers in the racism hue and cry”? Are you saying that there’s really no more racist discrimination left?
You wouldn’t be taking your experience of the bad actions of a few members of a minority and positing that all accusations of racism are equally false, are you? Because, if you are, that would be… racist.
moriahhas a point. I wonder if he really does think that all accounts of racism are untrue?
I’m “white” and I have experienced personally that form of bigotry known as racism. It came in the form of an older minority male who readily admitted that he “Hates white people!” He said he did everything he could to make a white person’s life miserable, unless it was his boss. He was of the generation who had to ride in the back of the bus, drink from a different fountain, etc. This of course, did not make his hatred of me any less wrong. I was not alive at the time, and did not take part in that, and both sets of my grandparents did not condone such attitudes.
He wasn’t “black” either, he was Mexican. They made any “person of color” do those things, not just “blacks”. I asked other people who lived in those times, one of whom could recall seeing the newsreels of the Brown girl going to school. (Brown vs. Topeka school board, think that’s the correct case name.) I also looked it up, the phrase “colored” also meant Mexicans and Native Americans, etc.
There are actually people in this town who have told my friend (that worked as a teacher’s aide at a school) that black people can’tbe racist, only white people can be. They had made bigoted, racist comments to her, they were black, she’s white. She called them on it, and told them that she didn’t have to put up with racism.