Buttafuoco!
There’s a name I wish I could never hear again. I’d even volunteer for some sort of “Tigana” type spell so I just can’t hear it. That won’t keep my eyes from accidentally being burned out by his sex tape. shudder
Conan needed a go-to person for “fat” jokes after Anna Nicole Smith died and Kirstie Alley was the next well-known person available (especially after she started appearing in Jenny Craig commercials only to get fired after falling off the wagon). Actually, I think Conan himself is quite aware how mean the jokes are. Didn’t he used to sing “Oh, I’m gonna go to hell when I die” whenever he cracked one at Alley’s expense?
Also, don’t forget that Alley used to be quite hot looking before her weight problems. The decline in her physical appearance is a source of schadenfreude similar to seeing the stuck up cheerleader who wouldn’t go near you in high school waddle into the 10 or 20 year class reunion over 100 pounds heavier.
To be fair, the last Conan joke I heard about Larry King’s age was pretty good-
The first election Larry King voted in was
(I may have a-c wrong, doesn’t matter)
a.) Kennedy Vs Nixon
b.) Eisenhower Vs Stephenson
c.) Truman Vs Dewey
d.) Jesus Vs Barabbas
I have lived in towns with smaller “carbon footprints” than Al Gore. He is a shameless huckster of “Eco-Guilt.” He is fair game for comments about his personal appearance, lack of charisma and the way Tipper makes him dress in public. If anyone deserves to be pilloried in the public green, it’s Al Gore.
I was thinking that this was it also----Kirstie was just a well known fatso, and everyone needs a go-to lardass for the occasional donut joke, right?
But I wondered, why not Limbaugh, or Rosie-----You know, fatties who are actually vile, malevolent assholes (and who everyone already hates anyways) as opposed to Kirstie Alley, who by all accounts is just another washed up actress who became overweight…
To me, from the frequency and over the top vicious nature of the jokes, I still gotta believe its personal between Conan (or his writers) and Kirstie Alley, and I would love to know what the genesis of the bad blood is.
PS----- another poster commented about how often writers float from show to show, so it would not surprise me at all if someone on Conan’s staff has a reason to hate Alley due to working with her on a prior project, and so she became a target that way.
PPS-----Kirstie Allie was indeed hott years back when she was on “Cheers” and I can agree that its more satisfying to sass someone who was once a beautiful person that it is to attack somebody who has always been repulsive (Rosie O’donnell)
Kirstie Alley also made a short-lived self-deprecating series called “Fat Actress.”
So you object to him working really hard to reduce our impact on the environment?
Amen.
Oh, I’m sorry, which of the physical sciences did he go back to school and earn a doctorate in, to this end? Anything less is, well, less.
Kirstie Alley is an actress who had a lot of success “back in the day” who has since tried to cash in making fun of herself because of her weight. As long as she does that, she’s fair game. I agree that doing it after the fact is beating a dead horse and maybe a little mean.
I don’t know the ins and outs of who knows who in entertainment, but I think this is unlikely. They’re in the joke business and it is probably not personal. I’m trying to find a list of his writers to check, but so far, I haven’t been able to do that. If the jokes are over the top, that may itself be part of the joke.
I’m just amazed to hear that Conan is still on the air.
So you’re dismissing the effect of raising the awareness of a couple of million people? Okey doke.
Re: Kirstie Alley – to some extent, I think it’s just laziness – easier to default to your “go-to” fat (old, weird, flamingly gay) figure for the joke than come up with a new one.
The other element is that the late night hosts skew pretty old, as do their audiences, in some cases (Leno esp.). These touchstone figures have been around forever, and everyone knows who they are. You could make a joke about Starlett McFamewhore gaining weight, but if half the audience doesn’t recognize the name, the joke is an auto-fail.
He doesn’t seem to be working hard at changing his own lifestyle to reduce his impact on the environment, just trying to get us to change our lifestyle. That is a major form of hypocrisy. Also, he remains fair game by using this hypocrisy to keep his name in the news while flying in private jets and living in an energy sucking Taj Mahal.
Actually, could someone please give me an update as to the dimensions of the belly and butt of one Darva Conger?
Umm… perhaps you need to adjust your antenna. He replaced Jay Leno a number of months ago.
Wuz in all dah paypuhs.
I realize the OP mentions Al Gore and Dick Cheney, but let’s drop the political stuff here and focus on the entertainment part. We’ve had plenty of debates about all the Gore and Cheney topics in GD and the Pit.
From urbanlegends.com:
By the way, MPB in Salt Lake, ‘Kirstie Alley is fat’ jokes are nowhere near 10 years old. That Fat Actress show was four years ago and I don’t remember anybody talking about her weight before that. Here’s what she looked like 10 years ago (lower left).