In which a certain shop owner is reviled.

[Zabali_Clawbane]

@Small British Shop Owner

Because an ideal government should be the elite: representatives are supposed to represent, not be representative!

Men tend to show greater standard deviation, as a population, than women. So it follows that the elite should be primarily men. As should the dregs, hence my question to Zoe about prisons.

Ok, either you are so crazy no one has dared challenge you in person for fear of what your rampage would entail, or you’re a time traveler. Either way, I see the futility of trying to have a rational discourse with you.

My opinion, you’re batshit, nuts, daft, you’ve gone round the bend, you’re a few cards short of a deck, cracked, bonkers, cuckoo, certifiably insane. If you’re not, then you might seriously consider the impression you give off. It must not be fun to be tolerated for that level of “eccentricity” and not actually liked. But, that’s assuming you’d want people to enjoy your company. Maybe you don’t.

[DrDeth]

@lobstermobster

My college professors were adamant about never accepting wikipedia as a source so neither should we.
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wiki is fine as a source for anything not controversial- but only IF there are cites.

[lobstermobster]

@DrDeth

wiki is fine as a source for anything not controversial- but only IF there are cites.

Oh I read it every day. I just think that Mr. Marvelous is going to have to do better to argue that women in power are indicative of a national flaw than by presenting a wikipedia article about a standardized intelligence test that a lot of people don’t even find merit in.

[chowder]

@Zabali_Clawbane

Ok, either you are so crazy no one has dared challenge you in person for fear of what your rampage would entail, or you’re a time traveler. Either way, I see the futility of trying to have a rational discourse with you.

My opinion, you’re batshit, nuts, daft, you’ve gone round the bend, you’re a few cards short of a deck, cracked, bonkers, cuckoo, certifiably insane. If you’re not, then you might seriously consider the impression you give off. It must not be fun to be tolerated for that level of “eccentricity” and not actually liked. But, that’s assuming you’d want people to enjoy your company. Maybe you don’t.

Don’t beat about the bush, tell him straight what you think

[Mangetout]

@Little Plastic Ninja

The first mistake of oh so many people here and elsewhere is believing that they are far, far cleverer than anyone else around.

You’re so right! I’m surrounded by people like this.

[EddyTeddyFreddy]

@Muffin

CarnalK, I directly answered your question, and of course I stand by my posts. Now, for the third time, do you find SBSO’s indignation in his cafe thread to be stage managed?

(Coming very late to this party)

I got the vibe from CarnalK’s post you linked to that he was underhandedly accusing SBSO of being a sock for the long-departed Stage Manager. Note the cap-S on “Stage” in that post.

shrug Could be wrong, of course.

[Acsenray]

My questions:

@Small British Shop Owner

What does worry me is the increasing feminization of society, but this isn’t really related to sex, other than women as a whole are more feminine than men.

@Small British Shop Owner

Any country which has fifty percent women in their government is not a country I want to be a part of. I’m all for legal rights for women. But not for femininity. It ruins a country.

See Sweden!

What is feminization of society? Why should it be less desirable than non-feminized society? How is it related to fighting sexism? What is its relationship to equal rights? What is its relationship to reducing disproportionate underrepreresentation of women in positions of power? What is “femininity”? How does it ruin a country? How is Sweden an example of femininity ruining a country? How does the proportion of women in the legislature relate to femininity ruining a country?

@Small British Shop Owner

Noone lives in an Athenian democracy, instead, most of us posting here live in a representative one. There are good reasons for that.

The reason for representative democracy is to ensure that women do not get too much voice in policy decisions?

@Small British Shop Owner

Zoe: Do you think that the same number of men and women should be in prison?

How is this question related to the proportion of women in positions of power and the statistical argument? Are individuals allocated to prison on the basis of statistical probability? Are individuals assigned to positions of power on the basis of statistical probability?

@Small British Shop Owner

Because an ideal government should be the elite: representatives are supposed to represent, not be representative!

What is the definition of “elite”? The most capable? The most effective? The most honest? The most deserving? Under the imperial system, was it more likely that these traits would be present in those put in positions of authority?

Men tend to show greater standard deviation, as a population, than women. So it follows that the elite should be primarily men. As should the dregs, hence my question to Zoe about prisons.

How do statistical distributions and probabilities relate to what kinds of traits will be present in those holding positions of authority?

[guppy]

@mhendo

Actually, that Nature article comparing Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Britannica has been subjected to some pretty serious criticism of its own.Some more extensive quotes from Britannica’s response (pdf):There’s plenty more in the report. Of course, amid all the press masturbation about the great Wikipedia, Britannica’s response didn’t gain anywhere near as much attention as the original Nature article.

Thanks for that, that’s good to know (although I did like the ease of being able to rely somewhat on wikipedia).

[Little_Plastic_Ninja]

@Mangetout

You’re so right! I’m surrounded by people like this.

Hush, you. The difference between them and me is I’m right.