In which, I get hauled into Human Resources

Since we don’t actually know you or her, can you tell us what she thinks you did?

She has said many, many things. That I am turning people against her, having people come up and ask her about us. Some really out there stuff, like I’m bad mouthing her boyfriend for going to AA (My husbands recent bout with NA is found in a Pit rant, I credit with saving my husbands life, marriage and fatherhood), really, it’s all over the place, I can’t even really keep track.

We do have mutual friends, and like most people, I went to a mutual friend when this began to find out some insight, however, that stopped almost 3 weeks ago.

I will add that the father of her child now works with us and has been nothing but nice to me, we have had several pleasant conversations about what the first year of parenting can be like. I have not noticed any awkwardness or discomfort in working with him at all. To be honest, it is rather surprising, just from a loyalty standpoint. Then again, he also knows how dramatic she can be.

I’ll say it again, I have been very supportive of her through this until HR became involved. The stuff I have stashed for her I was going to give to her boyfriend. When I say I had no animosity towards her, only sadness, I mean it.

Interesting, especially your work environment.

Also you confirmed that HUPG is following in your footsteps.

I’ve seen cases where males have developed an irrational grudge, and a deep sense of paranoia - in one case it was against me, I could never work out why, but about 12 years later he made a point of coming up and apologizing, at a sort of company reunion.

Mostly they arose because the department lost a strong boss - me :-}

In your particular work environment, from what I understand, things are very controlled as they can’t afford to let anything slip.

I think a keeping a low profile is your best policy, if HR talk to you, which I now think is unlikely, then a complete lack of self defence/justification would probably be safest.

I’ve had co-workers do the same thing. She stopped talking to everyone, making sure to hug the wall when she passed anyone in the 12 ft wide hallway…all the drama, etc. I felt sorry for her for a while, but now I feel nothing.

None of what you said even sounds remotely like something a person can be legitimately fired for but with no union, I suspect they’ll do it anyway if they’re so inclined. It really sucks, but unless you’re ready to call a lawyer, you may end up eating it. :frowning:

I’m more concerned with the hormone thing in the case of your friend. I don’t know what post-partum depression looks like before the baby is born. Does anyone have any experience with PPD? I’m just wondering if she isn’t going to go through an even more serious thing once the baby comes.

Sorry for your troubles. I hope management sees the situation for what it really is and backs off.

Mmmm… I disagree just a little, mostly because I’m in a very similar situation. My version of the HUPG isn’t pregnant, just crazy as a fucking loon, and she happens to be the pet project for the president of my organization. Therefore anyone that CaaFL decides is on her list of People To Hate automatically starts getting shit from all sides- the president, supervisors, coworkers, etc.* She’s gone through three supervisors, at least two grievances, and more HR meetings than I could count, but they won’t fire her; partly because it’s simply easier to screw around with/discipline the normal people, and partly because she’s so unpredictable there’s no way to tell how she would react. I can totally see something like Auntbeast’s situation happening here.

[sub]* She made up a story about me whole-cloth, thinking I was standing in the way of her getting attention from a male coworker (I’m married and have no interest in said coworker other than as a coworker), that resulted in me being banned from the area he works in and forbidden from speaking with him or any of the other workers in that area either at or outside work. Although she insisted that I had left threatening voice mails telling her to stay away from said coworker, no voice mails were ever found, so there was absolutely no evidence whatsoever that could support such a result. [/sub]

Please excuse me, my apostrophe key is not working.

I have never been in a situation like this before. Sure, there have been folks I dont particularly get along with, by my SOP is to limit my interaction to just business. This is far beyond my scope of experience.

My best friend moved away some months ago and used to work with us. I was talking to her today about the situation and told me that she has thought this girl is crazy for a long time and that was why they never became friends. We compared notes on what was told to my friend vs. what was told to me and there were quite a few variations that were beyond normal. Way. Beyond. Normal. The level of craziness that I witnessed Sunday night on the phone was extreme. Screeching, ranting, crazy.

I do not really expect anyone here to understand. I do not even understand it. I just hope it goes away with me being able to keep my job.

I appreciate everyones input very much. It is not like I can talk to anyone about this. Certainly not anyone I work with.

Let’s put the pregnancy issue aside - you need to file an official complaint against this woman, and document every single little thing that happens regarding her. Do not have any interaction with her that isn’t required by your job, especially no phone calls to or from her at home. Don’t talk about this situation with anybody at work except HR, especially not your manager, because he obviously is not on your side here.

It doesn’t matter if she’s crazy from pregnancy or just plain crazy; your ass is swinging in the breeze here and needs to be firmly covered. She doesn’t get a free pass because she’s pregnant; if she can’t interact like a normal human being at work, she needs to take a medical leave.

I do so hope that you have no more contact with her SO. He could be the one triggering her nuttiness, by perhaps talking about you:“Say, crazy girl, have you noticed how auntbeast looks so hot so soon after her pregnancy? Do you think maybe we should have her over?” etc…
Do not expect anybody else’s help in ‘testifying’ to her bizarre behavior. HR will not ask for it, and if you bring it up, saying “Just ask X” you will only sound like some psycho.
This sounds like it will be tough to overcome. As pointed out, do not talk about it to anybody else at work, and if freak calls you at home, keep phone records, and tape phone calls.

I just really want to second featherlou’s advice. In fact, I don’t understand why you haven’t filed a complaint yet.

It all sounds like Middle School if you ask me, just with livelihood’s at stake.

Probably not a good idea, a croupier in a Casino … they can’t afford to follow normal employment laws - for what they are worth.

Harry’s point about recording telephone calls is a good one, ideally don’t have any calls, but documented signs of lunacy tend to be convincing - also it is satisfying thinking that ‘I am recording this’.

You are probably wise venting your fury here

  • one of the safest pressure valves availiable.

Isn’t recording phone calls illegal without consent?

Whatever, this whole thread smacks of “we’re only getting half the story”. Even with the “clarifications”.

This part in particular bugs me. . .

SOunds like, “rumors happen here. Not my fault. There’s a break room. Rumors just happen.”

Makes one wonder just what kind of “rumors” happened.

Everything in this thread is unspecific.

[quote=She is holding me responsible for things that I am not responsible for.[/quote]

What the hell does that even mean?

Varies by state.

That’s every personal thread posted on this board. It’s why I try not to opine in these type of threads.

You may want to talk to an employment attorney. Although most states are “at will” you don’t want to be fired for cause, particularly if there isn’t one - makes unemployment difficult.

(I am not a lawyer or employment specialist, this is my personal opinion only, your milage may vary…standard disclaimers apply. What I’ve noticed is that people fired who have hired an attorney in these circumstances get severance packages - often just get paid for months while they go find a different job. And people without an attorney get walked out the door without qualifying for unemployement).

I forgot it’s casino work. My impression, which I get mainly from the SDMB, is that it’s an alien world. Maybe that’s one of the factors contributing to me not being able to get my brain around this whole situation.

I work in a place where folks have a lot of spare time. It means what it says it means, rumors run rampant around this place about everything. I’m trying not to be too specific for various reasons, one is anonymity and limiting any liability regarding the company I work for.

I go in again tonight for the first time since Tuesday. I’m pretty nervous about what may have transpired while I’ve been gone. Especially since this whole crisis began on a day I was off.

I will not be taking any more of her phone calls, I will continue to limit my interaction with her at work, I will not engage in any conversation regarding her or the situation. I will log any calls or statements from her.

We are an at will state. I’m pretty sure I have no rights.

I know that pregnancy can do a number on you which is why I have been sympathetic to her prior to this. I still am actually. I imagine it sucks to be that worked up AND pregnant. Since I was so recently pregnant, I think I do have a good perspective on what a pregnant woman goes through, how stressful it can be. I certainly hope she finds some peace.

You don’t have anything that will save you if it’s a casino on tribal lands. They can do what they want, without any legal recourse if your not in the tribe. You’ld have to take it to tribal court if you were in the tribe.

Do we have an update on this situation? I haven’t seen an “I’ve been fired!” thread in the Pit, so I’m hoping things have resolved satisfactorily…

I feel your pain. I was once hauled into an HR meeting with two other employees and we were advised we were being incredibly offensive to someone in the office. They wouldn’t tell us who we offended and more than that they wouldn’t tell us what we said or did that was offensive. I think I said something like, “So I offended someone but you won’t tell me who or what so I can avoid doing it again in the future? Why are we even having this meeting?” Then I filed complaint on how the meeting had been handled. Sometimes there is just crazy in your office and you can’t do a whole lot about it except cover your ass by making sure your side of the story is also on record. Though this really depends on your situation as I am sure it would be better in some offices to just let well enough alone and go back to your business.

You know, there are two types of people in this world. Those that need closure

Aw, now that was plain fucking hateful. :stuck_out_tongue: :slight_smile: