I just checked and yes, he did say Mary.
And I heard Marion the first few times, since I knew she’d be in it.
We just got back from seeing it with the kids.
Some of the action sequences were fun, but the story is a total mess. The plot holes are so enormous that we spent most of the ride home saying “But why did they … ?” and “How do you explain … ?”
Here’s another continuity error right at the beginning:
Indy calls the Russian major by name when they’re in the warehouse together. But when he meets with the FBI agents later he just gives them a description of her. When they tell him her name he acts like it’s the first time he’s heard it.
Overall it just felt like a very lazy, sloppy piece of film-making. It’s just a bunch of action set-pieces strung together with the thinnest of motivations. I agree with whoever said it feels overworked. This is the sort of movie you get when you rework a script so many times you lose the thread of the story.
We should have just gone to see *Ironman * again.
Also, I noticed that Ernie Reyes, Jr. was in the cast as one of the angry tribesmen who chase Indy and company into the crystal being’s chamber. If I’m not mistaken, he played Short Round in the Temple of Doom movie. It would have been nice if he and Indy recognized each other for a few seconds.
I heard him say “Marion,” but it was deliberately hard to hear in the hubbub of the restaurant, and Indy immediately repeats the same back as “Mary.” I think it was deliberate to have him misunderstand the name.
I know movies like this will always have plot holes, but this one seems jarring to me:
What the hell were the Soviets after in the crate in Area 51? If it was super-magnetic, wasn’t it a crystal skull? If it was, why did they need the one Indy found? And if it wasn’t, why did they need it at all?
I’m glad other people enjoyed the movie. I guess I’ll have to watch it again, because I still think it sucked. Even the action sequences were mostly bad.
I agree, Pochacco; it felt like a movie that was tired and overdone before they even started filming it. There were entire scenes that could simply have been cut out without losing a thing, and other scenes that seemed to be missing key information.
:smack: For the whole movie I thought his name was “Mud.” I thought he chose it to show how tough he was or something.
I thought the movie was a lot of fun! The jeep chase through the forest was like something right out of one of the first three films. I did kind of :rolleyes: at the sci fi aspects, but I guess if the other films can get away with the Ark melting Nazis, people who have their hearts torn out and still live, and a multi-hundred year old knight then it’s not too much of a stretch.
I loved the set pieces for the whole atomic section, especially the old Atomic Cafe sign.
The whole second half seemed like what National Treasure 2 was trying to be.
Ernie Reyes Jr played Keno in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II. It’s very sad that I knew that from memory.
Jonathan Ke Quan played Short Round.
Saw it last night with my 6 year old son who’s recently discovered the original movies and was eagerly awaiting this one (spurred on no doubt by the monstrous amount of TV commercial hype this movie received…I never thought I’d get sick of hearing the theme song, but I did).
We had fun. He loved it, but at six years of age plot nuances obviously escape him. I thought it was OK, but some of the action scenes were so unbelievably silly that I just laughed:
The fridge, the monkeys, the Mayan army hiding within the infrastructure of the temples, only to burst forth when Indy showed up, like they were waiting just for him, the multiple waterfalls, the inability of anyone to shoot straight, themultiple times Mutt gets banged in the nuts while improbably swordfighting while straddling two moving vehicles racing through rugged jungle terrain…it was just too much, even for an Indy movie.
I’d give it a C- just for being fun, but ultimately I thought it was pretty stupid. I did actually like the alien tie-in though.
The other thing that really bothered me, another poster touched on:
Area 51 being so unguarded, with things like the Ark just left to rot in crates with nobody around except at the gate, and the proliferation of KGB agents within the US, and not just them being there, but assaulting an ultra-high security area like Area 51, getting away with it, and just getting out of the country like it was no big deal to be a Commie in the 1950’s…
Bwah? Watched this recently, I did. What was the ugly racist part?
And of course the female lead was unbearable, she was a spoiled showgirl. Playing the character whiny was the only way to do it.
Tell me about it. When Indy is fired he and his boss are bemoaning how out-of-control the red scare has gotten. But just before that we watched a team of 20-30 Russian agents infiltrate an American nuclear test site, killing American soldiers in the process! Later on they attempt to kidnap an American citizen in broad daylight from a bustling college campus. I would say that if the Soviet Union is able to operate that openly and aggressively inside the borders of the United States then a red scare is absolutely warranted!
What were those Mayan warriors supposed to be, anyway?
I thought they were supernatural in some way, but then they were so easily killed by the machine guns. So, they’re just normal people, waiting around for intruders to show up? Must be a pretty boring job for the most part. They must have been elated to see Indy and the gang - finally, something to do!
HazelNutCoffee, I thought that Oxley said something about an army of the dead who guarded the tomb. I figured it was those guys. The first one, where the conquistadors were interred had a skull mask or something on before it got broken off. As always, the answer is “Use CRYSTAL SKULL on SURPRISINGLY LIMBER SOLDIER OF THE DEAD.” :rolleyes:
Yeah, but if they were dead,the machine guns shouldn’t have been able to kill them.
I think we’re well past the “spoiler box” stage, folks. 
Any more or less boring than the guys who sit on top of mountain ridges in Lord of the Rings waiting to light a once-in-a-generation signal fire?
Yeah, those Mayan dudes are just soldiers, guarding the temple. The guys in the spanish graveyard site, too. Thats their… Job. Hey, you, guard this temple. You’re on the late shift, O’Neil will relieve you in th’ morning.
It was probably a great honour for them, or something.
So, I’ve been wondering this: How could Indy’s father be dead? Didn’t he drink from the Grail at the end of Last Crusade? Similarly, isn’t Indy immortal? Reall, he shouldn’t even need to hide in a fridge to protect himself from the A-bomb.
The Holy Grail’s effects only worked if you remained inside the boundary symbolised by the seal on the floor of the cavern.
Then what’s the point of protecting it in the first place? And shouldn’t Jones Sr. have died from a bullet wound as soon as he left the cave?
Quite. Why stop the Ark of the Covenant if it’s just going to kill the Nazis? It’s a movie, don’t think too hard about it.
No, he was healed fully before passing back over the seal.
Area 51 was vacated because they were about to explode an A-bomb. It says right at the start when the Russians drive up that all personel have been ordered out for the next 24 hours.
Unrelated to that issue: I think that the idea of Mutt and the monkeys was that they thought he was one of them because the greaser hairdo looked like theirs.
Henry Sr only had a small sip from the Grail. It probably didn’t extend his life that much.
It was implied that the Grail only worked if you kept drinking from it. So while Indiana Jones will probably live to the ripe old age of 100 (or more), if he gets shot he’s still out of luck.