heh, figures nobody would mentioned the incomparable Gary Numan.
I personally prefer his early electronic stuff better, but throughout the 90s he’s been releasing some heavy/goth stuff. In particular, his latest album, Pure is stellar.
What was that name again? Oh yes,
Gary Numan - Pure
Not one Sisters of Mercy mention so far??
I was considering mentioning Psychic TV, but then decided not to, because IMO a lot of their stuff doesn’t really fall into either the industrial or goth categories that the OP asked about. Some of their early releases would, of course.
And then, of couse, there’s always Coil and CTI/Chris & Cosey.
I thought Ministry was just a given. Everyone should own The Land of Rape and Honey. There would be no good industrial music without it.
And if you care about what your band’s stand for, I’d stay away from Laibach, as they are decidedly…um…FAR right wing, if you get my drift.
Well, now we know who does vanity searches. 
I rather like Revolver 1010, although it’s more straight dark electronica. Same for This Morn’ Omina. I saw Ayria perform at the Das Ich concert, and they were pretty good.
I tend to go by individual songs instead of bands, because I usually just pick up song titles at my favourite club (“ooh! this one’s good! what’s it called?”). Except for my undying loyalty to VNV and Assemblage.
In the Macha Morrigan mold, no doubt :). She’s insanely talented (adverb chosen carefully), but she’s not my cup of Drano.
I’d forgotten all about the Cure’s Pornography; along with their Disintegration and The Creature’s Boomerang, it was one of my favorite albums as a semigoth teen. (Semigoth=Chaotic Goth with Druidic Tendencies, the kind of goth who makes allusions to Macha Morrigan). The Creatures consisted of Siouxsie Sioux and Budgie, IIRC, two of the members of Siouxsie and the Banshees, and their album Boomerang is spare, cryptic, surreal, and darkly funny. Brilliant stuff. I should get ahold of a copy of it.
Daniel
Joy Division.
I’m sorry Lissener, but Diamanda Galas is nothing but a pretentious harpie.
Definitely. Although I usually think of her as Vagina Dentata, or Aunty from Riddley Walker.
Actually, I just happened to enter Cafe Society to see a thread title that practically SCREAMED my name
Why yes, yes I am! And thank you for the comment, lissener. I could never sit through Diamanda for very long, but I love her as a person just for doing the crazy shit she does. Foetus, on the other hand, I can listen to day in and day out, much to the chagrin of my neighbours. The only good Christian is a dead Christian! 
And can I just say I am punching myself in the face as we speak, for not mentioning Ministry, Sisters of Mercy, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Legendary Pink Dots and Front 242. I knew I was forgetting lots yesterday, and there you go. My goth license is officially temporarily suspended.
Once again, the above are all bands that you should be able to find at any Tower Records or CD World or whathaveyou.
Ah, this thread is taking me on a happy (or should that be gloomy) trip down memory lane. I can see myself now, 17, in a wedding dress and big black boots, with my lunchbox and eyeliner, seizuring across the dance floor of The City nightclub in Portland, Oregon (The Other Side, upstairs, was the goth portion of the club, downstairs was all techno/disco) to Einstürzende Neubauten’s Z.N.S.. Good times.
I recently got into goth/industrial music too, after attending a party at an industrial club at Gen Con last year (Micah Skaritka from Cruciform Injection also happens to be the head of the Apophis Consortium gaming company and a friend of the line developer for Shadowrun where I freelance, which is how square little me ended up getting invited to such a thing).
Anyway, I recommend wandering over to industrial-music.com, Metropolis Records’ website, and checking out their offerings. So far I’ve bought and enjoyed:
VNV Nation (Futureperfect and Empires)
funkervogt (Survivor)
haujobb (Solutions for a Small Planet)
Informatik (Nymphomatik)
Cruciform Injection (Response Stimuli, Critical, Epilogue, and Biomechanical Disintegration)
I’m planning to pick up Icon of Coil, Assemblage 23, and a few others soon.
Now why would you try to pick a fight like that? You know some people see something valuable in her work, and some people don’t. Ever since it’s become clear to me that I’m not allowed to discuss certain unpopular directors around here, I’ve decided not to engage in any negative Cafe Society threads; in fact I’ve decided not to say anything at all if I can’t say something positive. For now at any rate. But then you come along with this, something that if I’d said it–poof! there’d be three pages of pileon about how condescending I am. I just don’t get it around here anymore.
Actually, they along with Ramstein, are members of an “art collective” who have adopted the Fascist bent merely as a type of “performance art.” (In the liner notes for one of their albums they point this out.) Laibach’s cover of the Beatles Let It Be is not to be missed, IMHO.
Please don’t lump Rammstien (two m’s) with Laibach. There is absolutely nothing facist about Ramsmtein, unless you count the German language itself as facist. :rolleyes: Nor is their anything in any Rammstein liner notes about adopting a facist bent as ‘art’. I’ve seen them live seven times and have never seen any evidence of this, eitehr.
No one’s mentioned Collide, Butterfly Messiah, or Unto Ashes yet. All three are very definitely worth checking out.
Well, the reason you haven’t seen in Rammstein’s liner notes, is because it’s mentioned in Laibach’s liner notes. I don’t remember all the details, but Rammstein, Laibach, and a few other groups are all members of the same collective and they all use aspects of fascist/totalitarian imagery in their performances. A roommate of mine had this huge book on the the collective (damned if I can remember what the name of it was, though the text was in English and German), it mentioned who the groups were, and what their overall philosphy was. Plus it had a lot of shots from their various performances along with stills from various fascist films which inspired the stage performances. Just because they use fascist imagery doesn’t make them fascist. The Lion King used rotoscoped shots from Triumph of the Will, that doesn’t make it a pro-Nazi movie.
Some more not yet mentioned:
16 Volt
Action Directe
Ah Cama-Sotz
Amduscia
Ascii Disko
ASP
A Split Second
à;Grumh
Absurd Minds
Aimless Device
Alien Sex Fiend
Altaïr
And One
Anne Clark
The Arch
Aslan Faction
Beborn Beton
Bigod 20
BlutEngel
Borghesia
Butthole Surfers
C.C.C.P.
C-Tec
Cabaret Voltaire
Camouflage
The Cascades
Cassandra Complex
Cesium 137
Chamber
Chameleons U.K.
Cleen
Click Click
ClockDVA
Code Industry
Cold et Soman
Colony 5
Conjure One
Converter
Corvus Corax
Covenant
The Cramps
Cultus Ferox
Cyberactif
Cyber Axis
Cyborg Attack
DAF
DavaNtage
Deathline International
Deathstars
Decoded Feedback
Decree
Delerium
Depeche Mode
Dessau
De/Vision
Diary of Dreams
Die Warzau
Din Fiv
Dismantled
Dorsetshire
Dogwalker
Download
Dulce Liquido
Eisbrecher
Evils Toy
Fatal Morgana
Fad Gadget
The Fair Sex
Faith & the Muse
Faun
Fear Factory
Fictional
Fiddler Green
Fields Of The Nephilim
Feindflug
Fixmer/Mc Carthy
Flesh Field
Front Line Assembly
The Gathering
The Ghost Of Lamora
Ghosting, Pride And Fall
Girls Under Glass
The Glove
God Module
Gothminister
Grauzone
Gravity Kills
Graveworm
Grendel
Haggard
Hate Dept.
Hioctan
Hocico
The House of Usher
In Strict Confidence
Informatik
Inkubus Sukkubus
In Extremo
In Mitra Medusa Inri
Insekt
Intermix
Interpol
Invincible Spirit
Jesus and the Gurus
Juno Reactor
Kartagon
Kevorkian Death Cycle
Killing Miranda
Killing Ophelia
Kirlian Camera
Klinik
Kraftwerk
Lacrimas Profundere
Lacrimosa
La Floa Maldita
Lassigue Bendthaus
Leaves Eyes
Lene Lovich
Liaisons Dangereuses
Lights Of Euphoria
London After Midnight
Lords Of Acid
Love And Rockets
Luxt
Marilyn Manson
Matore
Mastertune
Melotron
Mila Mar
Miranda Sex Garden
The Mission U.K.
Monofader
Mystic Circle
Nekromantix
NamNamBulu
Neon Judgement
Neon Dream
Negative Format
Nightwish
Nina Hagen
Nitzer Ebb
Noctulus
Noise Unit
Northern Lite
Ohgr
Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio
Out Out
Persephone
Pitchshifter
Plastic
Pop Will Eat Itself
Primal Scream
Proyecto Mirage
Psyche
Pygmy Children
Qntal
Ravenous
Ressurrection Eve
Revolting Cocks
Robotiko Rejekto
Rob Zonbie
Rotersand
Salonorchester Weimar
Saltatio Mortis
Samsas Traum
Sanguis Et Cinis
Sara Noxx
Say Y
Schamdmaul
Seabound
Secret Discovery
Serotonine
Severed Heads
Siglo XX
Silence Is Sexy
Sister Machine Gun
SITD
Skeletal Family
Spetsnaz
S.P.K.
Star Industry
Staub
Staubkind
Stromkern
Suicide Commando
Switchblade Symphony
Tactical Sekt
Terrorfakt
Theatre Of Tragedy
Therion
Thrive
The Tors Of Dartmoor
Trans X
Tribantura
Trisomie 21
Tristania
Tweaker
Type O Negative
Ultraviolence
Ultravox
Undergod
Untoten
Umbra et Imago
Velvet Acid Christ
Welle Erdball
Winterkälte
Within Temptation
X Marks The Pedwalk
Xorcist
Xotox
Xymox
yelworC
Many club nights publish playlists such as Sinister in L.A.
which has more classic old school, or Replikant in Montréal (click on a DJ, then “playlist”) which plays the modern dance/techno that passes for Goth/Industrial these days. But at some point, you will order CD’s from Metropolis Records, trust me.
If ever you get a better connection, look into Digital Gunfire 'net radio.
Incidentally, Rammstein’s video for STRIPPED uses film from Olympia…and it’s beautiful.
But just to clarify,I did some research on this art collective and found this website listing their goals and projects, and didn’t find one mention of Rammstein.
I’ve been listening to industrial/metal music for years and have never heard Rammstein mentioned in conjunction with them. Laibach, however, I have heard has very violent, right wing leanings (perhaps not so far as to be fascist), and I would be very careful to put the two bands as peas in a pod.
Well, I don’t know about the violent leanings of Laibach. It’s been years since I glanced at that book, but I seem to recall that it mentioned something about how the full membership of the group would be hidden, and that one of the “codes” they used was certain iconography (akin to how the early Christians supposedly used the “fish” symbol to make themselves known to one another without saying, “Hey, Xerxes, I’m Christian, how about you?”), all of which Rammstein seems to have adopted.
Now, the members of Rammstein could have said, “Ya know, the stuff the NSK State guys are doing is pretty cool, let’s rip 'em off!” or they might not have. Considering the Rammstein folks are in Germany, and the German government takes a very dim view of anything which smacks of the Nazi party, I can well imagine that the Rammstein folks would want to keep any affiliation with NSK State pretty low-key.
Y’know, I recognise most of those bands. That’s somehow scary. And This Morn 'Omina and a guy from Ah Cama-sotz have a side project called Powder Pussy that performed at Savage Garden in Toronto last Friday. It was pretty good.