I’m kinda looking for a new heavy-industrial type band. Let me tell you what I’m looking for and what I like.
I love Sepultura’s Roots album. It’s my favorite heavy album.
I like hard grooves in the songs, with cool electronic music to support it.
I don’t want it to be Satanic. I know that sounds silly, but hey, this is heavy music. I prefer it to just be hard music with normal lyrics.
Anyway, let me know what you think. I’m pretty loose on the industrial part. It can, of course, lean toward techno as long as its hard. I don’t know, just recommend me something(not too entirely obscure, if possible. I can’t buy your neighbor’s band’s album).
“The Neon Judgement” is cool. They’re from the Front 242 era though, so maybe outdated now. A couple of my fave songs from them, “Kid Shyleen” and “Aweful Day”. You can check out some samples here: http://houbi.simplenet.com/belpop/groups/neonjudgement.htm
You might want to try Ministry as well as Skinny Puppy. My favorite album is The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste, though the rest are really good, too. I second (third?) the Front 242 suggestion, and also suggest Front Line Assembly - especially * Corroded Disorder, Hard Wired and Millennium*. If you can only affort one FLA cd- get Millenium.
I haven’t really listened to any new music in this genre in a while, but I also liked Unit 187 (their Loaded cd) and Insurgent.
YES! Einstürzende Neubauten rules like no other, although it took me a month to learn how to type their name, and another to learn how to pronounce it (in case you’re curious: eyen-shtoorts-en-duh noy-bow-tun), but I fell in love with them immediately. They’ve been around for 20 years, and they’ve been fresh for the duration. Even if you don’t speak German, you’ll enjoy them (that is, if you share my psychological makeup, musical taste, and love for all things German).
In case you don’t share my giddy devotion to them, you could try other bands, like KMFDM (well, now, MDFMK), and Rammstein. I hear Nine Inch Nails are pretty industrial. They were influenced by Neubauten, so it could be so.
And even better, Nivek Ogre (ex-Puppy) has a new project called OHGR that’s freaking me out! 80’s-style EBM with a very hard-edged sound. (Think Ministry’s Twitch with 21st century production values). It may be more techno than industrial, but I’ll tell you more later as I haven’t bought it yet. From what I’ve heard, though, they could become my newest fave band. On the more guitar side of the fence, there’s Disturbed.
Another yup to Neubauten. They did the 9:30 Club’s first-ever show here in DC.
For a band that defies classification, and changes radically from release to release, the Butthole Surfers rule; they are probably still my favorite band. Like several already-established bands (notably Suicidal Tendencies on Join the Army), the Buttholes befriended Slayer, and their influence is very apparent on Independent Worm Saloon. As an added bonus, that album was produced by John Paul Jones. Not the sailor. Give it a go–it’s pretty good, and unlike Slayer, not satanic. Not very industrial, either. Just very, very strange.
The reason I bring it up is because when I thought about it, I realized that every single person I know who owns Sepultura’s Roots absolutely loves Independent Worm Saloon. I think you will, too.
and I-n-s-u-r-g-e-n-t. OK, that should be a start for my shopping list when I go to Portland this weekend.
I also think that Machines of Loving Grace would be a safe bet. And how could I have forgotten Ministry? It must be my age showing again!
Still on the old stuff: Have we mentioned Sisters of Mercy? How about Caberet Voltaire? (Which may not be quite metal enough but I just love Nag, Nag, Nag.)
N[sup]3[/sup]A[sup]3[/sup]M[sup]3[/sup]: Ha! Gotcha beat, I already spoke German when I began listening to German industrial music. I need to track down some of their CD’s; all my stuff of theirs is on vinyl.
I don’t own it yet, but from the looks of things, you would definetly like Pure by Gary Numan. I don’t know anything about Numan’s other works, but this one came out in 1999, and is 100% whoop ass.
As for KMFDM, if you’re not sure what you want, check out NIHIL, XTORT, or RETRO. RETRO is sort of a ‘best of’ that is like a KMFDM time machine, with a good mix of their newer and earlier material. And KMFDM’s last album, ADIOS, has more of a techno-ish vibe then their other CD’s.
Wheras the MDFMK EP by KMFDM (not to be confused with the *MDFMK[/] album by MDFMK) has a very techno-ish feel, was released after ADIOS, and is also highly recomended.
As for Nine Inch Nails, I highly recomend them, but on entirely different criterea than the ones posted above. While Trent Reznor (the man behind the name) has produced some excellent ‘industrial’ tracks, I don’t usually consider NIN an industrial label. In addition, the NIN ‘sound’ has varied greatly over the years. If the first album, Pretty Hate Machine isn’t to your tastes, then the Broken* or Fixed EPs might be. And the second album, The Downward Spiral is, again, a completly different beast. Find a friend with these releases(The Donward Spiral is in many collections), and figure out what you like.
I ignored NIN’s newest release, The Fragile, not because I dislike it(I love it), but because I’m hesitent in recommending itto the uninitiated.
Well I have here in my hand “Industrial Strength Machine Music- the Framework of Industrial Rock 1978-1995”
Which has-
Throbbing Gristle
Cabaret Voltaire (yes, Nag, Nag, Nag)
Non
Test Department
E. Nueubauten
Scrapping Foetus off the Wheel (my personal favorite although he hates to be called industrial.)
Skinny Puppy
Front 242
Clock DVA
Meat Beat Manifesto
Ministry
KMFDM
My Life With the Thrill Kill Cult
Revolting Cocks (covering Olivia Newton John!)
and NIN.
If you can find it, it’s a great CD, plus a good way to find out what you want to buy more of.
Another one for Neubauten. Meat Beat Manifesto and Throbbing Gristle were good, too, as already mentioned. Also a little-known band called Consolidated - don’t know if they’re still around - although they can get kinda political/preachy.
For real industrial, though, may I recommend Lou Reed’sMetal Machine Music? Sure, it hasn’t got much in the way of grooves, but it’s definitely not Satanic, either. In fact, it hasn’t got any lyrics at all! Just 64 minutes of screeching, scraping feedback. Perfect.
Ok…i’m assuming you’d like your electronics with metal guitars. If this is correct here are some bands you’d wanna check out:
Samael(their new cd…i forget the name)
Front Line Assembly(Hard Wired and Millenium albums only)
Laibach(mostly the latter period stuff)
Kmfdm…although i’m not a fan…you’d probably like em
Ministry(Twitch through Psalm 69 era)
Neubauten(Halber Mensch and Haus de Luge)
oh…and of course Puppy(The Process, Rabies and Too Dark Park should suite you) and the ogre’s project Ohgr.
ps:Why in god’s name would someone call 242 metal?!
Is it just me? I could never stand the Butthole Surfers until I heard Jesus Built My Hotrod by Ministry.
Just me? Ok, sorry.
NIN is way pop anymore, but when I first heard Pretty Hate Machine I swear I’d never heard anything like it, it was so revolutionary. It’s funny, on that album I can only think of one use of the F-word, and that’s in a slow love song (well, as close to a love song as Trent could manage). “Just a fading f-ing reminder of who I used to be, come on tell me: you make this all go away”. Strangely, I found that album to be more powerful as a result.
Bile is a pretty good metal/industrial band. They haven’t put out an album in a few years, but they have started touring again, and their new album, which is due out soon, was produced by one of the guys from KMFDM.
The Meat Beat Manifesto is considered industrial? The only song I know by them is on the Depeshe Mode tribute cd, and that song barely sounds alternative…guess it’s showing their softer side.
I give up, it’s too hard to catogorize bands. I didn’t make any suggestions of my own since I didn’t think I liked any besides tool and NIN, but according to yahoo’s listings I like several: Econoline crush; God Lives Under Water; Gravity Kills; Pitch Shifter; Rammstien and VAST. At what point does a band get considered Industrial rather than Alternative or Hardcore? Take At The Drive-in for example, what would you label it?
That’s probably a thread in itself. You can see from the variety of responses in this thread that definitions vary greatly. woody mentions Metal Machine Music which is ambient-industrial-type stuff and betenoir mentions Throbbing Gristle which is classic “industrial”. That’s what I’d call industrial. Probably not what Malahoth is looking for, though.
My theory about “alternative” is that is comes from Echo and The Bunnymen’s The Cutter, the timing’s about right. Feel free to disagree, or nominate me for the Nobel Prize for History. It has applied to any band with a funny name; basically a bullshit nomenclature.
My theory about “hardcore” is even more potentially insulting to people who define themselves/their music with it.
From the OP’s mention of Sepultura’s Roots (world beat-metal fusion?), I didn’t think Malahoth wanted my views about old SPK vs. later SPK. Probably even less so now. My guess is they’re just looking for something hard but musical, not necessarily with samples of industrial machines. Hence, Prong (industrial-metal?) is just as good a suggestion as Prodigy (techno-industrial?).
