Gamora obviously felt an obligation to stop Thanos so she wasn’t going to just hide in a well on some random world, even if it would have been the “best” option in retrospect. She also realized the risk since she made plans to die and keep Thanos from getting the information. Her actions were justifiable based on her character.
Strange had no idea that Thanos was coming for him until maybe an hour before Thanos came for him (well, his people did). Then he gets captured and makes the decision with Stark that taking the fight to Thanos was better than returning to Earth to wait for round two. I don’t know that Strange really had a good option for hiding the stone (launch it randomly into space?) even if he wasn’t going to take it along.
Vision & Scarlet Witch got jumped without knowing anything about anything and then decide to try to remove and destroy the Mind stone. So they certainly can’t be blamed for handing it to Thanos.
Thor & Loki had no knowledge of Thanos until he showed up and squeezed the stone out of them.
We (finally) saw it this weekend and my 10-year-old son was so distraught at the end that he looked at me and said “That’s it?” Then he flipped off the movie screen. Some teenage girl also shined the light from her phone at the screen and showed her middle finger shadowed by it and another teenage girl spent almost the entire movie crying. Everyone leaving the movie was so quiet; normally you hear people taking excitedly about the movie or anything else but everyone was just silent. I knew people were going to die going into the movie and I knew this was just part 1 but I also strove to not get any spoilers (with the exception of asking if Captain Marvel was in it). My son finally calmed down about the movie after and then started talking excitedly about it and predictions on what would happen next. I also got to point out the Tobias Fünke lookalike to my 16-year-old daughter and she had a good laugh at that.
Overall I liked it and I definitely did not expect the ending. I expected some of the Avengers to die but not that Thanos would win. Of course it will be reversed at some point.
I think the Gamora/ Thanos relationship should have been developed in a bit more detail in earlier films considering how important it turns out to be in this one. It was an interesting plotline but it wasn’t quite believable that Thanos really cared about her.
I wonder if the whole “wiping out half the population” plot point was first developed in comic books in the 60’s/70’s when there was widespread “population bomb” panic which turned out to be generally misguided to the point that half the world is now worried about low fertility rates and ageing populations. I think that plot point would have worked better 50 years ago than today.
I have no idea. Her crying didn’t seem totally related to what was occurring onscreen because there didn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason for it other than it started pretty early in the movie and didn’t. frelling. stop.
Well, Thanos wipes out half the population to impress Death, yeah. But Death wants half the population wiped out because she’s concerned that overpopulation will lead to universal extinction, and she needs life to keep existing (and dying) to keep existing herself. So the motivation was still there in the original comic, just at one step removed from Thanos. And it does feel kinda Population Bomb inspired. i09 did an article on it a few weeks ago.
I didn’t really ask those questions expecting answers, because lets be honest, these movies all end up fanwanked to hell and back. But I have to respond to this.
Gamora’s actions made no sense whatsoever, they just didn’t. I can see her feeling an obligation to stop Thanos but here is the thing, she never at any point had the means to stop Thanos, and she would have known that more than anybody.
I’m serious, her plan to stop Thanos involved running up to him with a sword and thats probably because running up to him with a sword is all that she could do. And as somebody who had been around Thanos all her life she would have known damn well how useless running at Thanos with a sword would be.
So she wants to stop Thanos, and feels an obligation to stop Thanos. But she is also conscious that she knows where the Soul stone is, that Thanos is now collecting the stones and that he must never get that information. She feels so strongly that he must never get that info that she wants her boyfriend to kill her should it ever look like happening.
Nope. People can fan wank all they want but Gamora should never and would never have sought out Thanos in those circumstances.
Gamora knew Thanos all her life and hated every second of it, she hated him and hated being near him. And in all that time she spent near him she never picked up that sword and tried to kill him. No, instead, in GOTG her thoughts were not to stop him, but:
She never tried to kill him because she couldn’t, it was clear to all that he was way out of her league. And yet now, when he has picked up a few infinity stones and is searching for the rest of them, including the one she knows the location of, now is when she decides to try and kill him?
There will be other fanwanks but I’ll leave it there, I suspect my thoughts on the matter are clear.
She couldn’t change the past - getting away was the best she could do - now knowing what Thanos ‘has’ done and what he ‘will do’ - she decides its time to try and stop Thanos.
Not that big a wank really.
Beyond that - they had hoped to get to nowhere -before- Thanos, in order to recover the stone, they were late, so Gamora tried.
Plus - it allowed for more backstory related to Thanos and Gamora, etc.
Yeah, Gamora didn’t set out to try and kill Thanos, that bunch of the GotG set out to try and stop Thanos from getting the Reality Stone because they knew where it was. So, basically the opposite of the complaint that everyone was bringing the stones to Thanos. Trying to stab Thanos was a last ditch option.
In doing so she brought knowledge of the Spirit stone’s location to Thanos but, again, she tried to prepare for it and it was never Plan A to confront Thanos directly.
I’m not clear if you’re arguing that Gamora should have known that Thanos was too skilled an opponent for her to beat, or if you’re arguing that she should have known that it would be literally impossible to kill Thanos with a sword.
Loki certainly knew who Thanos was beforehand. It was Thanos who gave Loki the scepter (with the Mind Stone in it) for the latter’s attempt to take over the Earth.
