Good morning, New Zealand. I feel like I’ve been sleeping for a week.
I don’t have much time, so straight to the point:
Top suspect is Mental Guy, primarily for his first post in the game (no link, sorry; I’ll find it tomorrow), which was wishy-washy to the extreme.
Secondarily, Pleonast. I know he always does the claim and all, so it’s not that, but something about the way he is going about his “this is what town should do” business in this particular game is pinging me. That last comment of his about “vanilla Town should never vote to save themselves” felt particularly wrong.
About the anonymous vote, my first thought was it was something done to assist in lynching ShadowFacts over Baffle (I know that Shadow is a very experienced player, and Baffle is new here), which would have the attendant effect of making Baffle look bad (or worse). If it came up short, as it did, then so be it. I think it’s relatively unlikely, however, that it was done to make ShadowFacts look good. Not impossible, but relatively unlikely (due to the closeness of the vote).
I hadn’t originally considered it could be a townie, but I suppose it could. Guiri’s observation is intersesting.
I love going second in this setup. It’s day one without the day one lack of stuff to talk about. Of course we do still “have” to lynch someone here. Probably. Needs some more thought.
They are not currently around to defend themselves and there has been some discussion during the London Day but I can’t help finding these posts questionable:
Skimming? Irrespective of ShadowFacts’s alignment, this is a terrible vote AND she didn’t unvote when ShadowFacts quoted the post in question with added color.
This is a pet peeve of mine, I hate when players simply refer to a case made by another player with no additional comments, thoughts or reasoning.
So there’s a close race between two candidates but you think there may be someone who is scummier but can’t be bothered making the case?
regarding travel. i see nothing that helps either way on disclosing on one can travel or not regarding alignment. if there is a player, obviously scum or non town aligned, (or shit maybe even town for that matter) that can force someone to travel whether or not they want to not and if they were town to claim truthfully and then get announced as traveling - well lynch all liars would be a fuckdoodle. i think it is a phuqed up idea. since it appears based on claims that it shouldn’t mean squat. and you damn tea drinkers in london could learn to hold your tounge. who was to say that everyone couldn’t travel. jeebus.
frack i am always agreeing that more information is typically better for town that scum but in this case i think scum got the better of this discussion.
this set up is frankly almost as fascinating as mazalan. but know that we have long periods of downtimes between Day cyles while a Day cycle is occurring at the same time will make me exceptionally nervous about lurkers in this puppy. i mean if someone is not keeping up in their current Day what assurance will we have that they are keeping up with the other Day cylcle.
the yeh, i find this questionable but i will have to get back to you on it is kind of lame. fark if you find something questionable why don’t you just get it out there.
hey, this might be fun. we can jerk with the tea drinkers while they can’t post. of course, i imagine that manana might be a bear dog for us lamb eaters.
Holy crap, what a long wait to start talking. Still, it’s a cool setup and it was fun to watch the others try to figure out what to do.
Drain Bead was way off in saying that people were massively pushing(guns-a-blazing, I think) to kill all potential travelers. That was a radical interpretation of the posts made, including the ShadowFacts one(s).
I have no major problem with us sharing out travel capabilities, but I am also not pushing for it.
I agree that, unless other info. arises, we should lynch someone on our side of the pond, so to speak.
I don’t think Drain was that far off. There were a few posts that included something to the effect of “I think all travelers are suspect” in this game, I’d consider that pretty aggressive.
Ugh, this was driving me crazy watching the Londoners do it too. Can you point out which posts said something aggressive like “all travelers are suspect”, other than [del]Shirley Sherrod[/del]* ShadowFact’s post where he started with that sentiment before coming to the complete opposite conclusion?
*The poster child for having controversial sound bite taken out of context while actually saying the exact opposite.
Serious. When I claimed VT in Lost, I think I acknowledged that a VT claim is weak. So I personally set no store for or against ShadowFacts’s claim on that point.
What I DO do is recognize my penchant for being distracted by major arguments and face-offs. So if this was a normal game, I’d stay away from ShadowFacts for now.
As for both (a) ShadowFacts voting Baffle to make the tie and (b) the anonymous vote for Shadow. The rules said, IIRC (and I’ll go check), that in the event of a tie whoever was voted into the tie latest does NOT get arrested. So Shadow voting for Baffle kept eir own [del]head on the block[/del] name on the arrest warrant.
ABWOP: Yes, I recalled that one correctly: “Ties will be resolved by timestamp. The tied player who received the most recent vote will not be arrested.” (#51)
AOD: 60 second delay between posts, had to wait 7 seconds. The board software was obviously done by someone from the Colonies.
Perhaps I have a spot as the one who says what he thinks is non-controversial things and gets them taken out of context as the exact opposite.
Hey, I just want to help out our Town power roles.*
*If you played Castle of Crossed Destinies recently, I said the same and a debate ensued over whether I meant help “out”, as in expose power roles, or if I meant “aid and assist”. I meant “aid and assist”, of course.
[out of game observation]Feels weird to be in another Day with people I haven’t been in the previous Day with (other than SP).[/oogo]
Anyway, good morning, all.
I do not have any intention of traveling again and I don’t understand the reasons MetalGuy has for saying there should be some vanilla who travel. If that makes me a sitting duck, so be it.
I can think of three reasons why somebody would want to travel:
They have a power that they want to use at the other location, and must be present there to use it. (Such a power could be Town or ICR.)
They want to strengthen or weaken a voting bloc. (Again, this could be Town or ICR.)
They are fleeing a probable arrest warrant for the next Day.
On the flip side, Suburban Plankton said in #199:
This is not complete, IMO. If one city believes they have lynched all the Scum, they should vote to arrest every known traveler at the other city. That way any Scum over there can’t come to the first city.
Which means we ought to be very suspicious of a long-term change in who is in which city.
I must have attributed Pleo’s quote from Shadowfacts’ review post as belonging to someone else. So there does not seem to be any blazing smoking guns. What that means about Drain, who knows.
This game is going to be a challenge with the read-but-don’t-participate stuff.
Scuba, your statement just seemed so obvious that it confused me, considering that in most games most players are Vanilla. I’d even be willing to say that most honest claims are Vanilla claims if you include enough games in your sample. You make it sound like a novelty.
I completely overlooked the ‘arrest somebody in the other City’ strategy in my post. I keep thinking I’ve got the mechanics of this game figures out, and I keep being wrong…
