International Mafia

You mean take a few minutes to see who it’s easiest to drum up a case against?

yes, sorry. the post was a response to Mahaloth about a comment you made about Mental Guy.

I’m just displaying my amazing analytical skills or lack thereof.

[quote=“Suburban_Plankton, post:291, topic:562553”]

Well, if I was coerced into traveling, I would most definitely want to make clear exactly what was happening. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to keep that kernel of knowledge to themselves, so I think it’s safe to assume that if anyone is forced to travel against their will, we’ll hear about it.

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and maybe i read the entire thread wrong but i don’t recally your declaration of travel until later than this post (294). so the fact that you posted this and then took a wee bit of time to say “oh yeh i had to travel as well” just pinged the ever living crud out of me. so i am trying to figure out why you would wait a couple of posts later. just kind of an anomoly i presume.

sach, any chance on fixing the tags in my previous post?

fug it. kind of half arsed it myself.

My motivations are for Town to win, but I’m not clear on where you are not clear.

Do you want me to explain why I voted in London even though it wasn’t required for me to do so?

Do you want me to explain again why I voted for ShadowFacts?

Do you want me to explain again why I chose to claim?

don’t want you to lose sleep toNight. burb is scum.

What puzzles me is why you would vote for Shadowfacts based on skimming. Or were you claiming that you placed the vote based on a skimming of the rules? Maybe that’s my misunderstanding.

You mention your desire for a tie not to occur, yet your secretive vote made that only more likely, no? As London Town players would realize a tie was likely and could resolve that themselves while you slept.

Vote Suburban

He’s voting for a claimed mason…still.

Make that:

Vote Suburban

It was not my intention to create a tie, and despite the fact that my vote was applied at Dusk in such a way that a tie was created, I had nothing to do with anything that was said or done or voted in London that led to the application of my vote creating a tie. As far as I’m aware, no one but sachertorte knew that I could vote there, or would vote there, or how I would vote there.

I endeavored to place a vote as best I could so that the anonymous vote mechanic would be exposed to be discussed and dissected as early as possible. I was mostly interested in watching how people would react to it, and had not yet decided to claim. I placed that vote between the hours of 04:48 PM and 05:34 PM Pacific on 12/11/2010. I came to the conclusion that ShadowFacts was the best place to put my vote based on perceptions that were apparently not correct, because I was skimming.

At that time the vote count was:

[QUOTE=Romanic at 12-12-2010, 04:12 AM Pacific]
Unofficial vote count:

3 Baffle (Pleonast #128, Romanic #208, Wolverine #211)
3 ShadowFacts (NAF1138 #131, AstralRejection #205, Drain Bead #213)
1 Idle Thoughts (ShadowFacts #194)
1 Pleonast (Baffle #207)

4 not voting (MentalGuy, MHaye, Mrs McGinty, Rin Twisted)
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The last time I checked the vote count before going to sleep, this was the relevant count:

That should read “The last time I checked the vote count before the end of the cycle and before going to sleep”. I did also sleep somewhere during the 27 hours and 18 minutes that elapsed between those two vote counts.

Don’t forget to share any opinions you might have as to who I should vote for in London overNight, or if I should vote at all.

Vote Suburban

I don’t know that the claimed-mason-voting is scummy or just stubborn and against the grain, but not liking it is enough for our Kiwi Day 1, and I know I’m not misreading anything in my judgment not to like it.

Please stop.

@ Cookies

OK, so you wanted to vote in order to have your action of voting be a topic of discussion.

I can get that.

And you voted for someone who was tied for the lead. And he was leading the vote count when you last checked.

Did you find Shadowfacts suspicious? Would you have voted that way were you casting just a normal vote?

Would you have been able to cast an invisible vote on someone else and achieved the same effect?

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[quote=“Suburban_Plankton, post:291, topic:562553”]

Well, if I was coerced into traveling, I would most definitely want to make clear exactly what was happening. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to keep that kernel of knowledge to themselves, so I think it’s safe to assume that if anyone is forced to travel against their will, we’ll hear about it.

OK, this actually sort of explains things…

I said that I would announce if I had been forced to travel against my will. Since I hadn’t announced at that point that I had been forced to travel against my will, you assumed that I must have traveled on purpose. I can see how that made sense to you.

The problem is, I saw things completely different. I was not “forced to travel”; I simply “began the game in transit”. It didn’t occur to me for a moment that I would need to state that I would need to state anything at that point I began the game “In Transit”. You began “In Wellington”, and your brother Astral began “In London”. It never occurred to me that I should need to ‘prove’ anything; this was simply the way that sachertorte set up the game. So I didn’t mention it until I was explicitly asked.

I don’t quite understand how you came to your interpretation of the game setup, but I can at least follow your logic…

As for my voting for a claimed Mason…well, I admit I let peeker’s behavior get to me. He made what I felt to be a completely baseless vote, then refused to explain himself. I waited several hours to see if he’d come back with some justification, and then just as I finally lost patience and voted for him, he comes in and claims Mason. But he still doesn’t address his vote on me.

Finally, when he finally does admit he “should have done this a couple hours earlier” and unvotes me, he turns right around in the same post and revotes me because I haven’t unvoted him yet. Frankly, I found that rather childish. So because of that, and because he still hadn’t explained his initial vote, and because I was just having a bad day, I figured “fine, if he can have a totally unfounded vote on me, then I can do the same to him!”.

Which is exactly the same sort of childish behavior I just accused peeker of.

I’m still not completely convinced of his claim, and I still take issue with his behavior earlier today, But he has finally addressed the issue of why he voted for me, and his claim is testable, so I can quit being stubborn now…

unvote peeker

hey, cooks i don’t know whether you are scum of not. but do what you will. i find that my advice except in these instance where i have some information can be pretty poor. so the only thing that i would advise is don’t fracking vote astral if he is still alive manana.

[oog]and this is what is fascinating about this setup, to me. i mean if we were on the same schedule astral would be confirming me but now i have painted targets on both our backs. with really only a cycle to make confirmation possible. very, very fascinating[/oog].

but what does scum do with that? shoot i have no clue.

i’d really like to hear from burby about why his vote still stands. kind of stinks if you are town aligned.

Damn, I thought I had fixed the quote tags there…

peeker, would you quit cross-posting with me?!?

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