International Mafia

[USCDiver]

@Idle_Thoughts

I don’t see how it could be public knowledge. If it was, everyone in New Zealand would be confirmed at the start of the game.
(Sach says that non-traveling Town will start out in NZ. Everyone else (traveling Town and scum) start out in London. So if Sach starts the game and says “Okay, x, y, and z are in NZ, a, b, c, d, e, f, and g are in London”…that would basically say everyone in NZ was confirmed Town)

No, no, I think it’ll probably be up to US to tell the rest where we are at any given time.

Those are sample PMs. I assumed that there would also be non-travelling citizens of London as well as dual citizens and USA citizens starting in both locations. Maybe I’m wrong.

[USCDiver]

Actually, we ***must ***know who is where since voting can only occur during the Day and you can only gaol a player in your current location. Players not in the current Day location can have have an arrest warrent, but not gaoled until the show up in that location, but it hardly seems fair to not know who is actually eligible to be gaoled.

[special_ed]

@USCDiver

It looks to me like Town and Scum alike travel during the Day (arriving at their destination at Dawn the following Day) Otherwise it would trivially easy to spot a scum who had travelled. Actually, check that…

oh, yeah poor reading skills on my part.

[sachertorte]

@USCDiver

If you can answer this:

Is ‘citizen of the United States of America’ synonymous with Scum for this game? or is is possible for other non-Scum citizens of the USA to be present as well?

The answer to this question is not public knowledge.

@USCDiver

It looks to me like Town and Scum alike travel during the Day (arriving at their destination at Dawn the following Day) Otherwise it would trivially easy to spot a scum who had travelled. Actually, check that…

Is the current location and travel status of each player public knowledge?

Yes. Each transition will contain an updated list of who is where.

@Idle_Thoughts

I don’t see how it could be public knowledge. If it was, everyone in New Zealand would be confirmed at the start of the game.
(Sach says that non-traveling Town will start out in NZ. Everyone else (traveling Town and scum) start out in London. So if Sach starts the game and says “Okay, x, y, and z are in NZ, a, b, c, d, e, f, and g are in London”…that would basically say everyone in NZ was confirmed Town)

No, no, I think it’ll probably be up to US to tell the rest where we are at any given time.

Incorrect.
The supplied roles are samples. Not all Vanilla Town, Dual Citizen, or Scum roles need to be identical. They could be, but they do not have to be.

[sachertorte]

Two Spots Left.

We have sufficient numbers to run the game (slightly modified if we don’t get 2 more). I will leave signups open for the last two spots until 11:59AM EST on Tuesday 7 December 2010. At that time, all role PMs will go out and the game begins (T0:00). No Night Zero nonsense (seriously, you shouldn’t be talking during Night Zero anyway :D)

1. Astral Rejection
2. Mahaloth
3. NAF1138
4. Drain Bead
5. MentalGuy
6. GuiriEnEspaña
7. ShadowFacts
8. USCDiver
9. Normal Phase
10. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
11. special ed
12. Idle Thoughts
13. Mrs. McGinty
14. Wolverine
15. Scuba Ben
16. peekercpa
17. Baffle
18. Natlaw
19. Pleonast
20. Suburban Plankton
21. Rin Twisted
22. Romanic

[sachertorte]

Note:

To make things easier, I have decided that the scum Night Kill doesn’t count as an action. In other words, anyone performing the Night Kill can do another Night Action in the same Night (e.g., Travel).

To be blunt: a single scum player can kill and use ‘some other power’ the same Night.

Explicit reasoning: Under no circumstances should you regard proof of Night Power use as evidence that a particular player did not kill.

[Mahaloth]

Wow, I don’t think I’ve played with that kind of rule.

Does that make the kill unblockable, then?

[John_DiFool]

Idly curious (not signing up): since people are arrested and not killed, can they be freed later in the game if new evidence comes to light? This would of course mean that you won’t know the Role of an arrestee until after the game finally ends.

[Scuba_Ben]

I don’t see how that makes the NK unblockable.

If I understand sachertorte’s set-up correctly, the NK happens overNight. At Dawn, people who are traveling board their plane to the other location, arriving at local Dawn.

Do I have all of this correct?

[sachertorte]

@Mahaloth

Wow, I don’t think I’ve played with that kind of rule.

Does that make the kill unblockable, then?

No. The only new thing is that performing the kill does not prevent the killer from performing another action.
If the player in question were blocked, both the kill and the ‘other action’ would be blocked.

@John_DiFool

Idly curious (not signing up): since people are arrested and not killed, can they be freed later in the game if new evidence comes to light? This would of course mean that you won’t know the Role of an arrestee until after the game finally ends.

[del]Color[/del]Colour is just Colour. Game mechanics are as usual. Arrest is a permanent and final condition.

@Scuba_Ben

I don’t see how that makes the NK unblockable.

If I understand sachertorte’s set-up correctly, the NK happens overNight. At Dawn, people who are traveling board their plane to the other location, arriving at local Dawn.

Do I have all of this correct?

Yes.

[Mahaloth]

Ah, I see. Thanks.

[USCDiver]

@sachertorte

[del]Color[/del]Colour is just Colour. Game mechanics are as usual. Arrest is a permanent and final condition.

So I assume there will be some torture involved to get all gaoled players to confess to their true citizenship? Or does part of the gaoling process include an examination of their “papers” to find out where their passport was issued? This could be set in Arizona with illegal Mexicans and Good Ol’ Boy Sheriffs too. Or the Godfather could be Obama and nobody really knows where he was born!

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

I’m wondering if perhaps we have an underwear bomber PFK terrorist.

[MHaye]

@MHaye

I’ve considered signing up, but I suspect that would lead to problems.

I’m already in two games, and I suspect a third will prove too much and my participation in one of the games will be insufficient.

If I get killed out of one game before signups close, I’d like to play. If not, I’ll keep the subs bench warm.

I suddenly find myself no longer involved with Bufftabby’s Castle of Crossed Destinies.

/in please.

[Mahaloth]

One more then, or are we full?

[sachertorte]

One more, but we are starting in two hours regardless.
I’m also extending the first 12 hours by a day to make the schedule fit better over the holidays.

T0:00 Tuesday 7 December 2010 London Day – Wellington Night
T12:00 Monday 13 December 2010 London Night – Wellington Day

T24:00 Friday 17 December 2010 London Day – Wellington Night
T36:00 Wednesday 22 December 2010 London Night – Wellington Day

T48:00 Tuesday 28 December 2010 London Day – Wellington Night
T60:00 Monday 3 January 2011 London Night – Wellington Day

T72:00 Friday 7 January 2011 London Day – Wellington Night
T84:00 Wednesday 12 January 2011 London Night – Wellington Day

T96:00 Monday 17 January 2011 London Day – Wellington Night
T108:00 Friday 21 January 2011 London Night – Wellington Day

T120:00 Wednesday 26 January 2011 London Day – Wellington Night
T132:00 Monday 31 January 2011 London Night – Wellington Day

[Suburban_Plankton]

I’ve received my PM.

Do we have a final player list?

[Scuba_Ben]

Confirming. When are we officially at GAME ON?

ISTM that post #65 + MHaye is the list.

[USCDiver]

Right then, I’m confirmed.

[sachertorte]

T0:00 Tuesday 7 December 2010 London Day – Wellington Night
Good Morning London and Good Evening Wellington.
First and foremost, a big thanks to CatInASuit for providing feedback and colour suggestions. If I drop of the face of the earth (and even if I don’t) CatInASuit will be the backup Moderator. Hopefully this new mechanic will work. If not, I hope we can have fun and learn something from the game anyway.

The International Crime Ring has authorities in London and Wellington worried. Intelligence reports show activity in London, United Kingdom and Wellington, New Zealand. Flush out the criminals and make your cities safe once more. Dire situations call for dire measures.

The following Players are in London and are therefore eligible to post as well as vote:
Astral Rejection
Baffle
Drain Bead
MentalGuy
MHaye
Mrs McGinty
NAF1138
Pleonast
Rin Twisted
Romanic
ShadowFacts
Wolverine
You may vote for anyone alive in the game, but the arrest warrant issued will only be effective in London.

The following Players are in Wellington and are therefore UNABLE to post and UNABLE to vote:
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
GuiriEnEspaña
Mahaloth
Natlaw
Normal Phase
peekercpa
Scuba Ben
special ed
USCDiver

The following Players are in Transit to Wellington and are therefore able to post but unable to vote:
Idle Thoughts
Suburban Plankton

London Day will end at 21:00 GMT Monday 13 December 2010.
Wellington Night will end at 10:00AM NZDT Tuesday 14 December 2010.

(Monday 4:00PM EST 13 December 2010 for the Yanks)